Posted on 12/25/2020 5:17:26 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Merry Christmas to all. Please remember the REASON God came in the flesh in the form of Jesus, to provide salvation to the world through forgiveness of sins. It also says in the Bible, if one does not forgive, one can not be forgiven. We all want forgiveness when we mess up, but don't want to give it in return.
Repentance is also required. One must admit one is wrong and ask God for forgiveness. All of this involves the heart which is a tough thing to change. We must forgive Democrats for being evil and only think about how to get power, control and money along with some of their corrupt Republican friends and the Chinese. God will provide justice in the end and we must remember that while suffering here in our lives.
It's tough, but Jesus (our example in suffering, no?) requires us to follow His example. I try very hard, but it IS difficult. We want justice for the rampant evil taking place in this country, but that is GOD'S job, not ours, and it says so specifically in Romans Chapter 12.
Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin
I’m in.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
JoMa
It’s all true. Yet, I struggle.
Merry Christmas to you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_WAtrpgM6Y
Does Jesus forgive Satan? Satan’s disciples? (Read democrats) Help me on this one.
God bless us everyone
Malachi 3:2
But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap
2 Issues re: your query.
1) Satan is a fallen angel, not human. Angels have eternal life before any judgment. Humans had not eaten from the tree of eternal life, and after original sin, were condemned to death.
The good news is we now have an opportunity to escape that condemnation, via the substitutionary atonement of Christ Jesus at the Cross. He died as a Perfect Sacrifice for the sins of humanity, thereby providing a change in condition, so that God the Father could provide humans eternal life, while remaining immutable in His righteous Judgment.
2) Re: Disciples of Satan. One consequence of the Garden of Eden and the fall of man, was that man would not naturally follow Satan. While every human since then has the ability to discern good and evil (Adam & Eve ate the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil), we also confuse human good as fellowship with God and Divine Good.
Those who reject God and His provision of Christ, might be turned over to the Adversary. Their natural inclination is to hate the Adversary. Those who seek to follow him have been scarred in their souls, generally either by carnal or worldly lusts, and rather than turning back to God, seek arrogantly to satiate their insatiable desires to follow anything other than God. Some believe they can overcome their plight by following the fallen angels and believe their temptations to further sin.
Just as forgiveness requires our repentance, changing our mind or way of thinking, and returning to God through faith in Christ, likewise those who reject God have no forgiveness.
Salvation is only as difficult as we make it. It only takes a smidgen more faith than no faith whatsoever for saving faith.
Merry and blessed Christmas to you as well, MMTU. Thanks for the reminder.
Hi mosaic.
God cannot forgive any fallen angel, because the fallen angels will not repent.
It’s important to understand that angels exist in eternity. They are outside of time, they behold God (unless they choose to be separate from him) and they ‘have all the information’ in regard to any decision they make.
Angels understand all of the consequences of their actions. If an angel rebels, its decisions are final and irrevocable in a way that we temporal creatures can barely understand.
But as for the ‘disciples’ you mention:
Any living human being that you meet is inside time. No matter how wicked, they are (at least theoretically) able to repent and to accept God. If they *do* repent then the God of Mercy will certainly forgive them.
Hope this is helpful.
Merry Christmas to one & all.
Merry Christmas.
It *is* hard. But it is what we are called to do. ‘Pod.
Good expositions by both of you on the plight of the demons. Having researched that topic specifically for a book I wrote, I can assure you that you would find the literature discussing it to be sparse indeed. By virtue of your comments here, you nearly qualify as leading experts in the field!
There is no other name to be Saved by - Jesus Christ and Him alone.
The pride of the human heart dismisses His Advice and His Word, especially His Warnings.
Nobody has an excuse.
If anybody wishes to join us in our Heavenly Family, the offer is there. Sadly most, go willingly to hell and the grave. It’s their fault.
We are told we won't cry in heaven, yet I am profoundy sad for those who make the choice you describe, with a sadness not easily assuaged. My present presumption is that not crying about them in heaven will be predicated on the knowledge that they've gotten their wish. Yet that seems somehow inadequate to the task of cheering me up over that ultimate tragedy.
Regardless of whether that is true or not, that was a very kind thing to say.
Thank you, and Merry Christmas.
Repentance is the key word here.
Yes our tears will be wiped away, but The Lord describes those sent away from His presence and their emotions as being that of “weeping & gnashing of teeth”.
I can imagine the weepers being those who probably regret their decisions, but know full well they got what they deserved and wanted (based on decisions). The gnashers probably have an attitude of incredulity or insolence at the fact that Our Lord sent them to where they are.
As we currently are living in a vexing time of immorality like Lot’s time, and observing human behavior all around, I can pretty assuredly say I won’t even be sad for those who chose the way they did.
Psalm 37 comes to mind.
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