Posted on 12/23/2020 8:43:32 AM PST by tbw2
These wonderful themes of liberty have disappeared from today’s politically correct holiday fluff.
Classic Christmas Movies Declare Taxation Is Theft
These wonderful themes of liberty have disappeared from today’s politically correct holiday fluff.
https://fee.org/articles/classic-christmas-movies-declare-taxation-is-theft/
I would say 10% tax is reasonable for limited, small governance financing.
Anything more than that is theft.
“Its A Wonderful Life” was about a much more local, and responsible banking system.
Before WWII, there were laws in states regarding “bank double liability” - Bank owners/shareholders were not only risking their own capital, they were responsible to pay back creditors/depositors to the bank in the case of failure. It made them extremely cautious.
Given currency links to gold, no Federal Reserve money printing, and extreme caution on the part of bankers, we actually had a very stable, fair, and NON POLITICAL financial sector
Today the prevailing attitude is that anything you keep of what you earn is theft of the “common good”.
In “Its A Wonderful Life” George Bailey supports a solid middle-class lifestyle circa 1943 on $45 a week - with Mary Bailey home with the kids.
The Fed has destroyed the dollar and they’re not finished yet.
Is there some new law I don’t know about? A lot of law that prevented you from posting the movies in question?
When I was a kid, I got really annoyed by Santa is Coming to town.
As soon as the powerful Winter Warlock turned good and joined Santa’s side, he became total wimp!
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The 19th century Supreme Court had clarified that Congress is prohibited from taxing for anything that it cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
This means that, military expenses aside, if a given federal spending program is not reasonably related to the US Mail Service, then patriots can bet that the program is unconstitutional and be right probably most of the time.
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"
"10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
The reason that patriots are now being oppressed with unconstitutional federal taxes to pay for unconstitutional spending programs is this. Noting that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had given the power to vote for federal senators uniquely to state legislatures, not to ordinary citizens, the delegates had established the Senate partly to kill House bills that not only steal state powers, but also steal state revenues uniquely associated with those powers.
The problem is that the Progressive Movement successfully spooked low-information voters into twisting the arms of their state lawmakers to ratify the ill-conceived 17th Amendment (17A), the popular vote for senators destroying one of the main firewalls against an unconstitutionally big federal government. State lawmakers caved and ratified that amendment, foolishly giving up the voices of the state legislatures in Congress.
Now, when crook politicians promise citizens constitutionally indefensible federal spending programs to get themselves elected to the Senate, citizens who have probably never been taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers take the bait and elect them.
So citizen abuse of their 17A powers has effectively let corrupt Congress not only politically nullify the 10th Amendment, but also bypass the Constitution’s Article V requirement for the states to ratify new powers for Congress.
Are we having fun yet?
Where do Y’all live? Around here we have formed a community and we vote on taxes or those who implement taxes. Sometimes one side of the issue wins and sometimes the other. (School taxes have not done well.) We have agreed to abide by that by staying in the community as have those who move in. If enough people don’t like a tax we can get it put on the ballot.
All that is a bit of an oversimplification, but so is the statement that “taxation is theft”.
I saw a movie about ancient Babylon ( Victor Mature was in it ) and the king was imposing a 10% tax and the natives were ready to go to war....
“I would say 10% tax is reasonable”
Our founders thought 2%.
I like 2% better.
Actually, if the 80+% unconstitutional portion of the feds were dismantled, 2% would probably just about do it.
How I hate the 16th Amendment (thanks to the influence of Marxist Theodore Roosevelt despite the nonsense about him).
Actually, if the 80+% unconstitutional portion of the feds were dismantled, much less than 10% would probably do it.
How I hate the 16th Amendment (thanks to the influence of Marxist Theodore Roosevelt despite the nonsense about him).
A long time ago, the norm was that the church takes 10% and they did the social services (hospitals, etc.), and the king took 10% and paid for himself, his soldiers/knights, etc. Start increasing it above that, and people with pitchforks and torches might appear before your doors.
Today, the average American is paying ~42-43% tax, when you add it all up at city, county, state and federal. People do not even realize how high the tax burden is because a lot of it is hidden (that’s a newer trick by our transparent government) or they have just become accustomed to it. What makes this possible more than anything else though is the nanny state function of government. Most people are getting something from the government, and everyone essentially is paying for some service their neighbor is getting in some government transfer payment scheme. People are OK with big government and taxes when they believe they get something, even so-called conservatives, example: Covid spending bills.
The answer is We the People MUST return and enforce the Constitution of the United States.
THAT would mean the unconstitutional 80%+ portion of the federal government would be dismantled.
THAT would mean the IRS would become a storefront, taxes would be minimal and negligible, and once again freedom and the free market would rule our land.
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