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1 posted on 12/18/2020 12:49:18 PM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill

I wrote to my two swampy FL senators yesterday.

I agree, we need to bury these gutless jellyfish in calls and letters. They need to fear us more than the antifa vermin.


2 posted on 12/18/2020 12:51:19 PM PST by Zeddicus
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Can someone fill us in, as to what happens, if there is an objection?

I read a news article that said that if there are objections, then House and Senate adjourn to their chambers to debate, then return later for a vote. Do we know, at that point, does the parliamentarian instruct the clerk to call the roll, and we have a roll call vote on such point of order? And then a majority vote of Congress officially accepts the electoral votes?


3 posted on 12/18/2020 12:51:54 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Yes, we do, but it won't do any good other than as a symbolic gesture.

The House will have to vote to reject any state's slate of Electors, and there's no way on God's Green Earth that they will vote to nullify Biden Electors.

4 posted on 12/18/2020 12:52:46 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: wildbill

All of us need to call the Republican representatives and senators for our states and demand they not accept the Biden electors.

Call one of the state offices for easiest access. Spread the word. They’re already seeing the call volume. Ramp it up!


5 posted on 12/18/2020 12:52:55 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: wildbill

Already did, my Rep and my 2 Senators


6 posted on 12/18/2020 12:54:11 PM PST by southernindymom ( )
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I just called senators Cruz and. Cornyn today.

I explained that when I lived in Ohio in 2004 the results for Ohio were challenged on the floor to try to give Kerry the win.

The media approved of this challenge. House and Senate members challenged the Ohio results and Vice President Cheney approved a two hour debate in Congress on the results.

There was far less evidence of fraud in this case than in the current cases. At that time the radical left said that Diebold machines were used to turn the election for Bush/Cheney.

So the double standards here are profound.


9 posted on 12/18/2020 12:57:41 PM PST by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: wildbill

Be sure to emphasize that it is cowardice to sacrifice the long term to avoid short term strife. And cowards are traitors.


11 posted on 12/18/2020 1:04:55 PM PST by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: wildbill
I am re-posting this list I compiled of all the R Congresscritters. Hope it helps in this effort.

It was too difficult to find good email addresses as nearly all use those boxes on their webpages. I spent a LOT of time compiling this list. I left off a couple of RINOS that you'd be wasting your time contacting. I may have inadvertently left off a couple of names due to formatting challenges.

Sen. Richard Shelby
State: Alabama
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-224-5744

Rep. Bradley Byrne
State: Alabama
District: 1
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4931

Rep. Martha Roby
State: Alabama
District: 2
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2901

Rep. Mike Rogers
State: Alabama
District: 3
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-3261

Rep. Robert Aderholt
State: Alabama
District: 4
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4876
Rep. Mo Brooks
State: Alabama
District: 5
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4801

Rep. Gary Palmer State: Alabama
District: 6
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4921

Sen. Dan Sullivan
State: Alaska
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-224-3004

Rep. Don Young
State: Alaska
District: 1
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-5765

Sen. Martha McSally
State: Arizona
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-224-2235

Rep. Paul Gosar
State: Arizona
District: 4
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2315

Rep. Andy Biggs
State: Arizona
District: 5
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2635

Rep. David Schweikert
State: Arizona
District: 6
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2190

Rep. Debbie Lesko
State: Arizona
District: 8
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4576

Sen. John Boozman State: Arkansas
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-224-4843

Sen. Tom Cotton
State: Arkansas
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-224-2353

Rep. Rick Crawford
State: Arkansas
District: 1
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4076

Rep. French Hill
State: Arkansas
District: 2
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2506

Rep. Steve Womack
State: Arkansas
District: 3
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4301

Rep. Bruce Westerman
State: Arkansas
District: 4
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-3772

Rep. Doug LaMalfa
State: California
District: 1
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-3076

Rep. Devin Nunes
State: California
District: 22
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2523

Rep. Kevin McCarthy
State: California
District: 23
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2915

Rep. Tom McClintock State: California
District: 4
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2511

Rep. Ken Calvert
State: California
District: 42
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-1986

Rep. Duncan Hunter
State: California
District: 50
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-5672

Rep. Paul Cook State: California District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5861

Sen. Cory Gardner State: Colorado Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5941

Rep. Scott Tipton State: Colorado District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4761

Rep. Ken Buck State: Colorado District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4676

Rep. Doug Lamborn State: Colorado District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4422

Sen. Rick Scott State: Florida Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5274

Sen. Marco Rubio State: Florida Party: Republican
Phone: 202-224-3041

Rep. Matt Gaetz
State: Florida
District: 1
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-4136

Rep. Daniel Webster State: Florida District: 11 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-1002

Rep. Gus Bilirakis State: Florida District: 12 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5755

Rep. Ross Spano State: Florida District: 15 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-1252

Rep. Vern Buchanan State: Florida District: 16 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5015

Rep. Greg Steube State: Florida District: 17 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5792

Rep. Brian Mast State: Florida District: 18 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3026

Rep. Francis Rooney
State: Florida
District: 19
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-2536

Rep. Neal Dunn
State: Florida
District: 2
Party: Republican
Phone: 202-225-5235

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart State: Florida District: 25 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4211

Rep. Ted Yoho State: Florida District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5744

Rep. John Rutherford State: Florida District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2501

Rep. Michael Walz State: Florida District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2706

Rep. Bill Posey State: Florida District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3671

Sen. Johnny Isakson State: Georgia Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-3643

Sen. David Perdue State: Georgia Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-3521

Rep. Buddy Carter State: Georgia District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5831

Rep. Jody Hice State: Georgia District: 10 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4101

Rep. Barry Loudermilk State: Georgia District: 11 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2931

Rep. Rick Allen State: Georgia District: 12 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2823 Rep. Tom Graves State: Georgia District: 14 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5211 Rep. Drew Ferguson State: Georgia District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5901 Rep. Rob Woodall State: Georgia District: 7 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4272

Rep. Austin Scott State: Georgia District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6531

Rep. Doug Collins State: Georgia District: 9 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-9893

Sen. Mike Crapo State: Idaho Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6142

Sen. Jim Risch State: Idaho Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-2752

Rep. Russ Fulcher State: Idaho District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6611

Rep. Mike Simpson State: Idaho District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5531

Rep. Mike Bost State: Illinois District: 12 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5661 Rep. Rodney Davis State: Illinois District: 13 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2371

Rep. John Shimkus State: Illinois District: 15 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5271

Rep. Adam Kinzinger State: Illinois District: 16 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3635

Rep. Darin LaHood State: Illinois District: 18 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6201

Sen. Mike Braun State: Indiana Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-4814

Sen. Todd Young State: Indiana Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5623

Rep. Jackie Walorski State: Indiana District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3915

Rep. Jim Banks State: Indiana District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4436

Rep. Jim Baird State: Indiana District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5037

Rep. Susan Brooks State: Indiana District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2276

Rep. Greg Pence State: Indiana District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3021

Rep. Larry Bucshon State: Indiana District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4636

Rep. Trey Hollingsworth State: Indiana District: 9 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5315

Sen. Chuck Grassley State: Iowa Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-3744

Sen. Joni Ernst State: Iowa Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-3254

Rep. Steve King State: Iowa District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4426 Sen. Pat Roberts State: Kansas Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-4774

Sen. Jerry Moran State: Kansas Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6521

Rep. Roger Marshall State: Kansas District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2715

Rep. Steve Watkins State: Kansas District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6601

Rep. Ron Estes State: Kansas District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6216

Sen. Mitch McConnell State: Kentucky Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-2541

Sen. Rand Paul State: Kentucky Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-4343

Rep. James Comer State: Kentucky District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3115

Rep. Brett Guthrie State: Kentucky District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3501 Rep. Thomas Massie State: Kentucky District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3465

Rep. Hal Rogers State: Kentucky District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4601

Rep. Andy Barr State: Kentucky District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4706

Sen. Bill Cassidy State: Louisiana Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5824

Sen. John Kennedy State: Louisiana Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-4623

Rep. Steve Scalise State: Louisiana District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3015

Rep. Clay Higgins State: Louisiana District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2031

Rep. Mike Johnson State: Louisiana District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2777

Rep. Ralph Abraham State: Louisiana District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-8490

Rep. Garret Graves State: Louisiana District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3901

Sen. Susan Collins State: Maine Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-2523

Rep. Andy Harris State: Maryland District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5311

Rep. Jack Bergman State: Michigan District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4735

Rep. Paul Mitchell State: Michigan District: 10 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2106

Rep. Bill Huizenga State: Michigan District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4401

Rep. John Moolenaar State: Michigan District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3561

Rep. Fred Upton State: Michigan District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3761

Rep. Tim Walberg State: Michigan District: 7 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6276

Rep. Jim Hagedorn State: Minnesota District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2472

Rep. Tom Emmer State: Minnesota District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2331

Rep. Pete Stauber State: Minnesota District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6211

Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith State: Mississippi Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5054 Sen. Roger Wicker State: Mississippi Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6253

Rep. Trent Kelly State: Mississippi District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4306

Rep. Michael Guest State: Mississippi District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5031

Rep. Steven Palazzo State: Mississippi District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5772

Sen. Roy Blunt State: Missouri Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5721

Rep. Ann Wagner State: Missouri District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-1621

Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer State: Missouri District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2956

Rep. Vicky Hartzler State: Missouri District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2876

Rep. Sam Graves State: Missouri District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-7041

Rep. Billy Long State: Missouri District: 7 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6536

Rep. Jason Smith State: Missouri District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4404

Sen. Steve Daines State: Montana Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-2651

Rep. Greg Gianforte State: Montana District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3211 Sen. Deb Fischer State: Nebraska Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6551

Sen. Ben Sasse State: Nebraska Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-4224

Rep. Jeff Fortenberry State: Nebraska District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4806

Rep. Don Bacon State: Nebraska District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4155 Rep. Adrian Smith State: Nebraska District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6435

Rep. Mark Amodei State: Nevada District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6155

Rep. Chris Smith State: New Jersey District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3765

Rep. Lee Zeldin State: New York District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3826

Rep. Peter King State: New York District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-7896

Rep. Elise Stefanik State: New York District: 21 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4611

Rep. Tom Reed State: New York District: 23 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3161

Rep. John Katko State: New York District: 24 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3701

Sen. Richard Burr State: North Carolina Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-3154

Sen. Thom Tillis State: North Carolina Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6342

Rep. Patrick McHenry State: North Carolina District: 10 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2576

Rep. Mark Meadows State: North Carolina District: 11 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6401

Rep. Ted Budd State: North Carolina District: 13 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4531

Rep. George Holding State: North Carolina District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3032

Rep. Walter Jones State: North Carolina District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3415

Rep. Virginia Foxx State: North Carolina District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2071

Rep. Mark Walker State: North Carolina District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3065

Rep. David Rouzer State: North Carolina District: 7 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2731

Rep. Richard Hudson State: North Carolina District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3715

Sen. John Hoeven State: North Dakota Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-2551

Sen. Kevin Cramer State: North Dakota Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-2043

Rep. Kelly Armstrong State: North Dakota District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2611

Rep. Greg Walden State: Oregon District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6730

Rep. Lloyd Smucker State: Pennsylvania District: 11 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2411 Rep. John Joyce State: Pennsylvania District: 13 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2431

Rep. Guy Reschenthaler State: Pennsylvania District: 14 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2065

Rep. Glenn Thompson State: Pennsylvania District: 15 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5121

Rep. Mike Kelly State: Pennsylvania District: 16 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5406 Rep. Dan Meuser State: Pennsylvania District: 9 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6511

Sen. Lindsey Graham State: South Carolina Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5972 Sen. Tim Scott State: South Carolina Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6121

Rep. Joe Wilson State: South Carolina District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2452 Rep. Jeff Duncan State: South Carolina District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5301

Rep. William Timmons State: South Carolina District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6030 Rep. Ralph Norman State: South Carolina District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5501

Rep. Tom Rice State: South Carolina District: 7 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-9895

Sen. John Thune State: South Dakota Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-2321

Sen. Mike Rounds State: South Dakota Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5842

Rep. Dusty Johnson State: South Dakota District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2801

Sen. Marsha Blackburn State: Tennessee Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-3344

Rep. Phil Roe State: Tennessee District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6356

Rep. Tim Burchett State: Tennessee District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5435 Rep. Chuck Fleischmann State: Tennessee District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3271 Rep. Scott DesJarlais State: Tennessee District: 4 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-6831

Rep. John Rose State: Tennessee District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4231

Rep. Mark Green State: Tennessee District: 7 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2811

Rep. David Kustoff State: Tennessee District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4714 Sen. Mike Lee State: Utah Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5444

Rep. Rob Bishop State: Utah District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-0453

Rep. Chris Stewart State: Utah District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-9730

Rep. John Curtis State: Utah District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-7751

Rep. Rob Wittman State: Virginia District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4261 Rep. Denver Riggleman State: Virginia District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4711

Rep. Ben Cline State: Virginia District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5431

Rep. Morgan Griffith State: Virginia District: 9 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3861

Sen. Shelley Moore Capito State: West Virginia Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6472

Rep. David McKinley State: West Virginia District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-4172 Rep. Alex Mooney State: West Virginia District: 2 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2711

Rep. Carol Miller State: West Virginia District: 3 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3452 Sen. Ron Johnson State: Wisconsin Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-5323 Rep. Bryan Steil State: Wisconsin District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3031

Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner State: Wisconsin District: 5 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5101

Rep. Glenn Grothman State: Wisconsin District: 6 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2476

Rep. Sean Duffy State: Wisconsin District: 7 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-3365

Rep. Mike Gallagher State: Wisconsin District: 8 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-5665

Sen. Mike Enzi State: Wyoming Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-3424

Sen. John Barrasso State: Wyoming Party: Republican Phone: 202-224-6441

Rep. Liz Cheney State: Wyoming District: 1 Party: Republican Phone: 202-225-2311 Sorry for formatting glitches, but I just don't have time now to correct it. The list is useable the way it is, just not pretty. Good luck!

14 posted on 12/18/2020 1:13:54 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: wildbill

A few years ago I called Toomey and told him he should siht in his hat and pull it over his ears, so I think I’ll pass on calling him back.


15 posted on 12/18/2020 1:15:47 PM PST by JonPreston ( Crash the whole corrupt thing down)
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To: wildbill

Could there be a strategy here with the congress critters?

OK, first, the Trump electors in six or so states went against the grain and voted for Trump, even though their states popular vote was for Biden and the certified electors were for Biden. There was no forehand warning to anyone that these state’s Trump electors would do this. And for good reason. If this went out they would be burned by the MSM, the RINO’s and targeted by the radicals. They just did it when the time came.

I say the same applies here. Many will be willing to stand up for Trump WHEN THE TIME COMES. Why should they announce their plans ahead of time? The media would have a field day. China Mitch would have a heart attack.

We need to have faith, when the time comes it will be clear which good senators and reps will stand up not for Trump, but for election integrity and the security of the United States. And by doing their job, Trump will get his much deserved second term.

I think many know their careers are toast if they do not. It’s common sense.


16 posted on 12/18/2020 1:21:48 PM PST by redfreedom (Member of Agent Orange Health Club Since 1969)
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To: wildbill

Done. Cornyn probably has too much China in his closet. At least Cruz is doing something.


17 posted on 12/18/2020 1:26:21 PM PST by BozoTexino
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To: wildbill

NONE are taking phone calls, just a covid message, use email we dump.


18 posted on 12/18/2020 1:36:57 PM PST by GailA (I LOVE OUR GUTSY PRESIDENT TRUMP)
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To: wildbill

Stick a fork in it. There is nothing that will be done unless something extraordinary happens. This government has not done anything extraordinary since 1790.


19 posted on 12/18/2020 1:50:56 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: wildbill

I did, got the same old “thank you for your concern but we know better than you.” reply.


20 posted on 12/18/2020 1:52:50 PM PST by tiki (Electiongate)
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To: wildbill

Most of the GOP Senators are Bush League Republicans who want Trump gone as much as the Democrats.


22 posted on 12/18/2020 1:56:59 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: wildbill

I’m guessing my junior Senator, Kamala Harris, isn’t going to sign on. And my senior Senator is pretty busy hosting a Chinese spy den in her office.


23 posted on 12/18/2020 2:04:33 PM PST by Dagnabitt
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To: wildbill

Here is a good sampling of how Democrats complained in 2004 even as recently as 2012 about Republicans using computers to control the outcome of elections and the media acting like it was a credible concern

Ohio Diebold Machines 2004 Presidential election

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/06/politics/campaign/glitch-found-in-ohio-counting.html

But Aviel D. Rubin, a professor of computer science at Johns Hopkins University, said the relatively smooth election should not be taken as a green light for electronic voting.
“It is like asking a surgeon who states that a particular medical procedure is risky whether he might change his opinion because there was a successful operation using that procedure somewhere in the world,” Professor Rubin said.
Lack of a paper trail has helped feed rumors of fraud, said David L. Dill, a computer science professor at Stanford University. Without the “safety net” of voter verification, voting technology “has to be near perfect,” he said.

Did George W. Bush Steal America’s 2004 Election?: Essential Documents
By Bob Fitrakis, Harvey Wasserman, and
Steve Rosenfeld. CICJ Books. 767 pages. $40.

What Went Wrong in Ohio: The Conyers Report on the 2004 Presidential Election Academy Chicago Publishers. 142 pages. $10.95.

Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They’ll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them) By Mark Crispin Miller. Basic Books. 224 pages. $24.95.

https://www.motherjones.com/media/2005/11/recounting-ohio/

To skeptics, this episode highlights one of the main ways the election was stolen: by manipulating the computers that recorded and tabulated ballots. According to the Free Press, 15 percent of Ohio’s ballots—a number seven times greater than Bush’s victory margin—were cast on electronic machines provided or programmed by companies with ties to the Republican Party, including Triad. True, a limited hand recount was held afterward, but it was a sham, the skeptics argue. They point to the indictment this past September of two Cuyahoga County election officials for offenses that include failing to randomly select the recount precincts. Eaton made a similar accusation in her county—and, as if to clinch the case, was later fired. When her affidavit was posted at one of the websites claiming that Bush stole Ohio, one blogger commented, “This speaks for itself.”

2012 Atlantic article

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/ohios-little-voting-machine-scares-democrats/322114/

Romney-bundlers, voting machines, Ohio—it rekindles a perennial fear of voting fraud burned into the brains of Democrats. And that’s thanks to a company called Diebold. For those unfamiliar with Diebold, it’s a voting machine manufacturer and back in 2004 (when Kerry lost!) its CEO, Walden O’Dell, had written a letter to George Bush and Republicans about Ohio’s votes. O’Dell wrote that he was “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president.” And during 2004’s election, Bush carried the state by more than 100,000 votes, even though exit polling showed Kerry winning. And a conspiracy theory was born. Fast-forward eight years later and election this close, and you can see why Salon is freaking out and Breitbart is telling everyone to chill out. “For the moment, at least, the Hart story is only some intriguingly connected dots,” writes Turque. Hmmm, let’s see how that goes over in about two weeks.


25 posted on 12/18/2020 2:07:18 PM PST by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: wildbill

We should. I did.


26 posted on 12/18/2020 2:07:23 PM PST by sport
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