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Trying to figure out why they hated Trump so much
American Thinker ^ | 17 Dec, 2020 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 12/18/2020 4:25:57 AM PST by MtnClimber

When multiple people send you the same list, it's wise to pay attention — and in this case, the list reveals so much about Trump-supporters and Trump-haters.

American Thinker gets lots of emails. What showed up repeatedly in the American Thinker inbox on Wednesday was a long list of the possible reasons why leftists hate Donald Trump and deride him as the worst person and the worst present ever to hold that office. Each of those reasons is an accomplishment that all fair and honorable people should find impressive. The post not only highlights what Trump was able to do despite nonstop resistance from within the administration, from Congress, and from the media, but also highlights the left's absence of values.

The list appears at the Abyssus Abyssum Invocat / Deep Calls To Deep blog, home of a retired Roman Catholic bishop, the bishop emeritus of Corpus Christi, Texas. The bishop got the list, credited to E.P. Unim, after it showed up in one Rip McIntosh's impressive newsletters.

The list resonated with me because of a conversation I had with a young leftist who told me there's no evidence of fraud. When I answered with information about eyewitness evidence, data analyses, or the fact that every single metric in the world (enthusiasm, oil prices, cookie sales, you name it) supported a Trump blowout, he replied, "That's ridiculous. The proof that there's no fraud is that 81 million people voted for Biden because that's how much they hated Trump."

That's essentially E.P. Unim's premise:

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To: Diogenesis

“The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp...”...........Winston Smith, 1984


41 posted on 12/18/2020 5:20:18 AM PST by Red Badger ( “The goal of socialism is communism.”... Vladimir Lenin)
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To: MtnClimber
Strong leaders provoke strong responses. Standard game theory.

Supporters provide strong support and opponents supply strong opposition force...both equal but oppositely commensurate with that provided by the leader, in this case, Donald Trump.

On top of that, the media provided the narrative for the opposition force and the President's opponents were brainwashed with that narrative (Orange Man bad).

Since Trump wasn't a politician before running for President, it was hard for the opposition forces to get a handle on exactly what to hate about him. So instead of hating his policies, they created a fictional caricature onto which their anger could be projected. Trump was an blank canvas...he could personify any "evil" the Left could conjure up.

All of us have spoken with folks who said "I just don't like him." "No reason, I just don't like him."

That was the beginning of the media's indoctrination, before it had a chance to fill in the blanks.

42 posted on 12/18/2020 5:22:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: MtnClimber

They hate Trump because they saw him as a political wildcard.

Trump not only wasn’t a career politician, he wasn’t even a part-time up-and-comer. The two big political party machines never let people come up without getting fully vetted and trained. In other words, everyone in their parties are known quantities, and more importantly, controllable.

Establishment politicians have been taking donations for so long, and taking thousands meetings and crossing palms, and working with party bosses and political groomers like AKC pets going to the dog show, that once they get to the higher rungs of DC government, the rarely ever leave the plantation.


43 posted on 12/18/2020 5:22:53 AM PST by z3n
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To: MtnClimber

Easy: Trump would upset the gravy train they are all riding.


44 posted on 12/18/2020 5:26:10 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: MtnClimber

This is an easy one.

The dems knew that he was out to break up their establishment cash cow, which meant exposing their criminality. They were stunned when he won. Thus they got their media buddies to start the most rigorous campaign of hate they could - they had to get the country to hate him as well. He was the outsider - the enemy, and he could harm them.

Coup #1 was spying on him. Coup #2 was the Russian crap. Coup #3 was the fake impeachment. Coup #4 is election fraud.


45 posted on 12/18/2020 5:28:18 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Aim low, avoid disappointment.)
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To: All

46 posted on 12/18/2020 5:29:48 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Altura Ct.

here is a repost of mine, you may have seen the first part a while back...

you are right....It’s the extended program of islam
There IS a war on the West
This is but the most recent chapter...

The DNC has adopted the position of the marxist muslim coalition as projected by Carlos the Jackal and others of his time.
Go read Carlos the Jackal for his opinion of how to bring down the west.
He acknowledged that Marxism by itself could not bring down the west , nor could islam; but an alliance, a coalition of the two could. Obama was both a marxist and a muslim... and a lying radical at that.
Libya? Benghazi was all a part of that. China???
China and the “UN”?

here’s why they want President Trump:

This is what we are witnessing in the blm and antifa movements, they are Hillary’s frontline, brownshirts of her “resistance”
Ever notice how Bill Ayers was aligned with Obama???? Ever notice how Susan Rosenberg is the advisor to the blm??? Susan’s sentence was commuted by Clinton on his vast day in office. Both blm and antifa are alive in western nations.
This horseshit was in the pipeline over the last 8 years of Obama as he embedded his players in key government positions. Now, add in some Alynsky..one part Soros..some Obama regime and more Hillary.

Trump got in the way of their program, their “death to America” agenda. It’s still in gear, but Hillary was supposed to win so they could flip America.
Obama , Biden and HRC ++++ had installed an operational totalitarian government.

In their need to protect their agenda, they weaponized all intelligence, CIA, FBI, NSA thereby flexing their muscle using FISA to spy on the competition.... it could have been anyone who tripped the wire, but it ended up being president elect Trump. AND then after that, we saw them try to unseat President Trump afterwards, so we see that many of their deep state efforts are still alive today.
With the media suppression of the Biden corruption scandals we see the media’s complicity in their totalitarian agenda
The hijacking and destruction of America was well underway .... and many of its loyalists are still fighting to maintain the nefarious obamian “DEATH TO AMERICA” agenda.

Take out America and you take out the hub of western Christian man, his culture , his heritage, his successes, achievements advancements and progress.

IF and when the lights of liberty, rights and freedom go out in America~~~ it will take over a thousand years for the lights of liberty to come back on..
The democrats do not see that, they wish for death, death to America

What’s the choice?

Every success we have~ is founded in the reason we went to the crusades.

It’s the isamaphobia which gave us all our rights, liberty and freedoms in the Magna Carta. This document was created at the height of the crusades. Once we learned we could own property, then we started trading in ideas... thus patent law.... then we had some reformation.... and these were the building blocks that led to the Industrial revolution. Central to this was free speech. New ideas, and debate.
It’s this group of events that gave the advancement the world enjoys today.

Nobody else did this , not the Chinese, not the Indians, not the Africans, not the world of islam. It was Christianity.
Not Christianity from the Eastern Orthodox, due to constant badgering by isam they never had a chance to build.
Not Christianity from Rome, however they did have a minor hand in the process.
But it was a specific group of Christians, those of Great Britain

Communal systems like those in Africa, islam, and marxism NEVER developed the necessary infrastructure necessary to create the ideas that come out of our Magna Carta and patent law.
IT’s because of this that the sciences were expanded.
Originally Great Britain held the reigns, then along came the US of A with more resources, more land, mines ... and the root of more wealth
IT’s because of this that biomeds and every invention you see outside your window came from.
This is the reason for the expansion of the engish language
... the reason the word trades in USD
...the reason the language is the language of technology.

All of this came out of “islamophobia”... but as you are well aware, that is a misnomer.
There is a rational reason to fear islam as it is a part of the global “UN” AntiChristian movement.
Shortened: Antichrist personified.


47 posted on 12/18/2020 5:29:53 AM PST by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: MtnClimber

How quaint, another editorial for the slow and ignorant. PDJT has exposed the lies and methods the swamp uses to enrich themselves and treat us as pawns and pokerchips...or Buffalo chips...duh. they hate him is synonymous with hating us. These editorial writers I’m convinced are not this stupid, rather they still wand to get paid.


48 posted on 12/18/2020 5:34:52 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Take back our stolen republic or move to a cattle car of their choosing...)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Similar experience ..so true.

Would be interesting to analyze the similar patterns of thinking of these thinking patterns of psychopaths ans schizophrenics...and the similarity ,or description...of trump haters thinking in “ normal “ people. Adding borderline personality disorder...to see how this was created on a mass scale.

Perhaps it is simply explained by how propaganda sets up this pattern of thinking. And once the rational thinking is ovrwhelmed by emotions there is no way to “understand “ this emotional thinking in rational terms...as you say no way to make sense in rational way to understand their thinking..

Its as if the rational mind has been hijacked.


49 posted on 12/18/2020 5:35:53 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Everything you said. Plus the fact that evil always has hated good. The Democrats are evil incarnate. There is not one atom of good in any Democrat.


50 posted on 12/18/2020 5:36:35 AM PST by sport
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To: Maine Mariner

We have a winner. He defeated the appointed one. Jeb was supposed to win and then graciously accept defeat in the general with a promise he’d be next in 8 years. Trump blew that up. And then when he had the audacity to actually win the general, that was a bridge too far.

But it was also how he won. He pulled life long union democrats, blacks and Hispanics away from the Democrat plantation by opening their eyes to who the democrats really were and how little they had done to benefit any of these groups. The old talk is cheap, deeds are precious argument that Ross Perot tried unsuccessfully to make. That enraged the DS. They couldn’t allow people to actually think for themselves. Their power rests on the need for people to do what they are told. Trump asked people the famous “What do you have to lose” question, and the people listened. This couldn’t be allowed so they attacked him, were uncooperative and ultimately cheated to get rid of him when everything else failed.

The FFs wouldn’t even recognize the country they created. It’s not a monarchy, but it is ruled by a privileged ruling class. And that class is not going to give up power easily. Trump was a threat to that power and so he had to be destroyed. I’m surprised someone didn’t take a shot at him before now. Maybe if the cheating had failed that would have been the next step.


51 posted on 12/18/2020 5:37:16 AM PST by redangus (N tgat)
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To: sport

True! The dems are the official party of the spirit of anti-Christ. They fight for everything that is against God and a decent way of life.


52 posted on 12/18/2020 5:38:28 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Aim low, avoid disappointment.)
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To: MtnClimber

President Trump undermines the entire established system of bondage.

He overturned the tables of the temple of government, and the seats of them who sold peace.

History repeats. You can’t keep a good man down because his good ideas simply work, whereas bad people have bad ideas that fail because they are bad, so they are doomed to destruction just on general principle.

The corrupt, too-big-to-fail (where “big” replaces “functional”) established system’s only way of “winning” is by lying, cheating, bullying, and unleashing whatever *destruction* it takes. QED

God bless President TRUMP.


53 posted on 12/18/2020 5:38:33 AM PST by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: himno hero

It’s as simple as Cain and Abel - greed. The American oligarchs want more dirty money, and President Trump stood in their way for 4 years. He disrupted their plans to complete the sell-out of America to the Chi-coms, was in the process of ending the Big Pharma fleecing of Americans, and vigorously opposed the pork barrel politics and graft of the Uniparty on Capitol Hill. One Patriot standing against a multi-layered mob of voracious traitors. I firmly believe that if the election steal failed, that the Deep State had plans to remove him from office the hard way.


54 posted on 12/18/2020 5:39:28 AM PST by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: MtnClimber

Easy. He is not susceptible to bribes.


55 posted on 12/18/2020 5:40:19 AM PST by Golden Eagle (********** MERRY CHRISTMAS ***********)
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To: glimmerman70

Yes..how i feel as having worked all my life..feel like a real fool now paying my taxes to create this political monstrosity.

Im in this discussion Not to try to figure out the whys of how this happened but more to get validation for my feelings of betrayal and sadness.


56 posted on 12/18/2020 5:43:14 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: MtnClimber

I love Widburg but disagree with her premise in this article.

The young leftist spoke the most effective response to the skepticism about Biden receiving the number of votes he did: hatred of Trump, a passionate desire to see Trump punished, and not love or respect for Biden.

The hatred is irrational and even evil, but it did and does exist. A fundamental premise of the CCP/Democrat attack on America was to provoke weak-minded people into sputtering irrational hatred of Trump, to the point where any absurdity was more than sufficient reason, any lie about Trump was a good lie, a valuable lie, an admirable lie.

All of us have seen the irrational hatred in person, not to mention seeing the hatred propagated daily in the soviet media.

The question, not addressed by Widburg, but central to understanding the matter, is whether the marginal millions of voters allegedly acquired by Biden were acquired because of Trump hatred. IOW did irrational hatred decide the election?

I have not seen any study of the matter, or even any attempt to answer the question. Widburg sidesteps the question.

Personally, I have zero doubt that the election was stolen by CCP/Democrats. The irrational hatred was there, but not to the degree required to explain the Biden “victory.” IMO the irrational hatred did exist, but it was yet another concocted phony excuse to explain the fraud to the satisfaction of weak-minded people.

But it did/does exist, and there must be a way to demonstrate that the hatred did not and could not explain the votes acquired by Biden. It may be that the over-whelming evidence of fraud itself is the only explanation.

The absurdity of voting for Biden is self-evident to us, but it is easily explained by hatred of Trump to those who hate Trump.

The question is, how many Trump haters voted?


57 posted on 12/18/2020 5:43:54 AM PST by Gratia
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To: TalBlack

Very good insightful observations


58 posted on 12/18/2020 5:45:01 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: MtnClimber

You can set aside all the pontifications and reduce it down to demonically inspired evil, which is raging throughout the world.

“Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.” Ephesians 6:11


59 posted on 12/18/2020 5:45:12 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Red Badger

Wow..great quote


60 posted on 12/18/2020 5:47:11 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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