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Court: Ohio must allow gender changes on birth certificates
Dissociated Press ^ | December 16, 2020 | Julie Carr Smyth

Posted on 12/16/2020 4:33:42 PM PST by Olog-hai

Ohio can’t keep refusing to allow people to change the gender listings on their birth certificates, a federal court ruled Wednesday.

In response to a lawsuit brought by four transgender people, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Ohio found Ohio’s birth certificate rule imposed by the state Department of Health and the Office of Vital Statistics is unconstitutional.

The state was weighing an appeal.

Judge Michael Watson rejected the state of Ohio’s arguments that the policy helped prevent fraud and maintain a historically accurate record of its citizenry. He called such justifications “nothing more than thinly veiled post-hoc rationales to deflect from the discriminatory impact of the policy.”

The court sided with the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU of Ohio and Lambda Legal, which argued on behalf of plaintiffs that the state’s requirement prevents transgender people from obtaining a document essential to everyday living and subjects them to discrimination and potential violence. …

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; homosexualagenda; ohio; transgender
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To: Olog-hai

Ok, comply by placing a huge X across the male and put a note that says female amended xx/xx/xxxx


21 posted on 12/16/2020 5:37:40 PM PST by McGavin999 (Justice delayed is justice denied.)
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To: Olog-hai
is unconstitutional

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Nothing in the article said anything about why it was ruled unconstitutional. I'm not asking for a full disertation - just a finger pointing at the article and section or amendment which makes it unconstitutional. Since the tenth amendment says "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." and the power to register births is not delegated to the United States nor prohibited to the states, it looks like the state has full power on this.

22 posted on 12/16/2020 5:39:37 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The greatest threat to world freedom is the Chinese Communist Party and Joe Biden is their puppet.)
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To: Olog-hai

Just ignore the judge.

It has to start


23 posted on 12/16/2020 5:40:35 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: Olog-hai
Ohio birth certificates do not list gender; they list sex, which is a biological term.

Ohio should just amend the certificates to read:

SEX: MALE

GENDER: WHATEVER

or

SEX: FEMALE

GENDER: WHATEVER

24 posted on 12/16/2020 5:42:18 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Olog-hai

This is so silly.

My take... let them put whatever they want on the birth certificates for the newly redefined word “gender,” but also put the sexual chromosome makeup on the certificate... XX, XY, or the occasional XYY and XXY. And that shouldn’t be changed.


25 posted on 12/16/2020 5:45:13 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: epluribus_2

When does shooting start?


26 posted on 12/16/2020 5:57:04 PM PST by genghis
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To: Petrosius

With that kind of logic the judge may as well rule that God will not send Sodomites nor blasphemers to hell for all eternity, while he is at it!


27 posted on 12/16/2020 5:57:09 PM PST by Repent and Believe (...unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish. - Jesus (Luke 13:3))
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To: Olog-hai

Okay, just add some checkboxes for what “physiological equipment” they’re born with.


28 posted on 12/16/2020 6:04:59 PM PST by Skybird
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To: Olog-hai

A birth certificate is a report detailing certain things that were facts at birth. If the birth certificate says one is born a male, that is a permanent situation, time-locked facts.

If the person later transitions to be female and wants to amend their birth certificate, the certificate becomes a fraud, no longer representing a fact regarding their birth. If the person wants to amend their birth certificate to say female, well if they were born female, there would be no need to transition.

Maybe I am a 45 year old trapped in a 60 year old body. I wish to alter my birth cert to change my birth year. Does that make it so?

DAMMIT people. I apologize. I realized I am trying to apply logic to people who have none. Disregard!


29 posted on 12/16/2020 6:26:11 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: Petrosius

Ohio should not amend birth certificates at all.


30 posted on 12/16/2020 8:27:55 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Meanwhile in Hungary sanity prevails.

Lawmakers on Tuesday adopted the 9th amendment to Hungary’s constitution, stipulating that a mother is a woman and a father a man. The government-sponsored amendment passed with 134 votes in favour, 45 against and there were five abstentions.

The fundamental law now protects a child’s right to identify with their gender at birth and an upbringing based on Hungary’s constitutional identity and Christian culture.

The explanatory text states that western ideology is changing in a way that necessitates guaranteeing the child’s right to self-identity in line with their gender at birth in order to protect the child from mental or biological intervention affecting their physical and mental wellbeing.

Read more at: https://dailynewshungary.com/hungarian-lawmakers-adopt-9th-constitutional-amendment-mother-is-female-and-the-father-is-male/ https://dailynewshungary.com/hungarian-lawmakers-adopt-9th-constitutional-amendment-mother-is-female-and-the-father-is-male/

Hungarian nationality law is based on the principles of jus sanguinis. Hungarian citizenship can be acquired by descent from a Hungarian parent, or by naturalisation. A person born in Hungary to foreign parents does not generally acquire Hungarian citizenship. A Hungarian citizen is also a citizen of the European Union.

The current Hungarian nationality law came into force in 1993. By changes made in January 2011, every person who was a Hungarian citizen or a descendant of a person who was a Hungarian citizen before 1920 or between 1941 and 1945 and speaks Hungarian may apply to become a Hungarian citizen, even if they do not live in Hungary. Dual citizenship is permitted under Hungarian law.[1]

Hey that's me! Looks like I better brush up on my Magyar nyelv, the way America is going it looks like Hungary is more like the America I grew up in and the democrats are destroying.

31 posted on 12/16/2020 8:52:47 PM PST by Mastador1
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To: Petrosius

There is a solution to this. At birth take a DNA swab of each child and encode that onto the Permanent Record of Birth (PRB). Certificates are available in what ever flavor you want with or without the DNA info. Pay your money take your choice, you can be whatever little pronoun you want to dream up.
However, the PRB is the official state record and can never be changed. It contains clinical info DNA map that may be critical to the individual in later life for health and other legal issues. Think of the positive potentials and the negative. There’s your science. Forgot who you are or your a little bit confused? Go get a copy of you PRB, you can still play with your personal pronouns ‘til the cows come home.


32 posted on 12/16/2020 9:58:15 PM PST by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; big bad easter bunny; ...

OHIO PING!
Please let me know if you want on or off the Ohio Ping list.

Court: Ohio must allow gender changes on birth certificates
Dissociated Press ^ | December 16, 2020 | Julie Carr Smyth
Posted on 12/16/2020, 7:33:42 PM by Olog-hai


33 posted on 12/17/2020 7:20:38 AM PST by Lowell1775
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To: cherry

Welcome to a strngve world:

I can see it now:

A person goes to get a passport.
Birth Certificate
Driver’s License
multiple other pieces of ID....

BUT the sex doesn’t match on all the ID presented......


34 posted on 12/17/2020 7:47:52 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Olog-hai

So. Falsification of official records, not just personal choices about how to live.


35 posted on 12/17/2020 7:54:25 AM PST by Salman (Was Trump just a speed bump near the end of the road?)
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To: Petrosius

GENDER: They haven’t make up their mind.


36 posted on 12/17/2020 9:09:47 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: .44 Special

That’s still pandering to them.


37 posted on 12/17/2020 9:15:25 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Obligatory for clown world when the subject is appeasing mental illness of a tranny.


38 posted on 12/17/2020 9:17:22 AM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: Olog-hai

Anyone have any delusions that the Supreme Court will right this horrid decision?


39 posted on 12/17/2020 11:19:14 AM PST by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: ealgeone

Indeed. Judgment is coming.


40 posted on 12/31/2020 11:25:54 AM PST by FES0844
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