RAND PAUL: "The fraud happened. The election in many ways was stolen ..."

A key word in 15 being “lawfully”.

See also Title 3, paragraph 2:

§ 2 Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.

The Constitution gives the duty of appointing electors to the legislatures of the states. They typically put this to a vote, but when the vote fails, as in the case of fraud, the legislature can direct the appointment some other way, such as picking who they think if the best choice or who would have won apart from fraud. (Ordinarily, the appointment of electors is done “by law”, that is, the state law. But, in the case of a failure such as fraud, they may “direct” the “manner” of their appointment.)

Paragraph 5 determines what is “conclusive” must also be lawful:

§ 5 If any State shall have provided, by laws enacted prior to the day fixed for the appointment of the electors, for its final determination of any controversy or contest concerning the appointment of all or any of the electors of such State, by judicial or other methods or procedures, and such determination shall have been made at least six days before the time fixed for the meeting of the electors, such determination made pursuant to such law so existing on said day, and made at least six days prior to said time of meeting of the electors, shall be conclusive, and shall govern in the counting of the electoral votes as provided in the Constitution, and as hereinafter regulated, so far as the ascertainment of the electors appointed by such State is concerned.

NOTE: in many cases the state law was NOT followed in the process of appointing electors. Therefore, if they were not lawfully appointed, they are not conclusive.

There is a big difference between trying to get the most accurate count of legal votes in a close election, and recognizing when massive amounts of votes have been cast illegally.

“””§ 2 Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.”””

I believe you are missing something in your analysis.

All 50 States and the DC certified before December 14th (the Safe Harbor Day) the votes by each candidate (slate of electors). Therefore, the legislatures do not come into play.

I just found out StolenAmerica.com is an actual website! ( I thought of the name earlier today and checked out if anybody already got it). Yep.

“All 50 States and the DC certified before December 14th (the Safe Harbor Day) the votes by each candidate (slate of electors). Therefore, the legislatures do not come into play.”

Not if it is later determined that this choice was not “prescribed by law”. While it could be argued that this only applies to the day they choose and to the choice itself, Vice President Pence will be presiding. If their choice was not “prescribed by law”, i.e. unlawful, then the legislature can possibly decertify the first electoral slate and/or certify a competing slate of electors who have already voted.

Any avenue by which a contingent election is forced could result in a different outcome.

“The GOP has shown itself to be a paper tiger.”

Also true of the so-called deep state. Don’t think so? Take a walk thru any federal bureaucrat office and report back what you see. The fake media has created a fake tiger.

You aren’t God! What you & a lot of other Creeper morons are referring to aren’t “facts”- they’re opinions & conjecture. Y’all tear down everybody & everything that falls short of your ideal & put yourselves on pedestals. That’s not adhering to a purer form of conservatism- it’s vanity & ego. It’s just another form of im-better-than-him-ism. It doesnt get us anywhere at all. It sure as heck doesn’t get conservatism where we want it- majority representation in government, culture, economics, values, education, etc. I’m a red blooded 100% right wing conservative extremist with a healthy skepticism & severe dislike of the establishment- & y’all are getting on my nerves! I can only assume the rest of the populace wouldn’t even begin to want to listen to your b.s. In case you haven’t figured it out, that isn’t the way you go about winning the populace over or in converting people to a conservative philosophy. At this point all that’s coming across is a bunch of blowhards lecturing everybody endlessly & fooling themselves into believing that everybody is their enemy 🙄😜

Republican Senators did good today. Senator Ron Johnson was very forceful today as well. He called the Dems liars to their face. About time.

But I know- you’re just stating facts & those that disagree with y’all are willing idiots & blah blah blah. Whenever I start reading this crap- I hear Charlie Brown’s teachers 😇🤣

The election is over.

Of course evidence of fraud should be used to put laws in place (maybe even an amendment for national elections) to prevent future fraud.

Rand paul thinks it can be fixed. And with laws.