https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009562/John-Lennon-closet-conservative-fan-Reagan.html

Daily Mail ^ | Juner 30, 2011 | David Gardner

[Bogle]

"John, basically, made it very clear that if he were an American he would vote for Reagan...."

[Bogle]

Okay, with a tip of the hat to TChad...the above posting, is my penance for the ugly title to my earlier post: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3914836/posts Such a beautiful moment for freedom, and I just had to go screw the thing up.

[Migraine]

Imagine that.

[Bogle]

I guess next time I’ll just let it be.

[a fool in paradise]

John Lydon, aka Johnny Rotten voted for Trump

[a fool in paradise]

John Lennon talking about the Pistols, madness and Sid Vicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWE3npesaRo

[Robert DeLong]

and I just had to go screw the thing up.

Instant Karma I reckon. 8>)

[Robert DeLong]

Interesting story though.

[bramps]

I was never a Beatles fan and know very little about their history unlike many men my age. And I’ve only heard Yoko Ono described in mocking terms. But I recently saw them both on some kind of an interview special and I found myself liking Yoko Ono very much and I could easily see why John Lennon married her.

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

Paging everyone who called me full of it for saying this. You can see this interview on Netflix in a movie called Beatles stories, but this is better because I never could get anyone who tell me how full of crap I am to watch that movie.

[dfwgator]

Lennon and Reagan met once during half time of a Monday Night Football game I believe around 1975-6, Reagan had his arm around John explaining the rules of American Football. Cosell said to Frank Gifford, “You interview the Governor, I’ll interview the Beatle.”

[CommerceComet]

Hasn’t it been said that if a man isn’t a liberal at 25, he has no heart but if he is still a liberal at 35, he has no brain? Maybe John Lennon was coming around. I’ve heard that Lennon liked Reagan from when he first met him because Reagan struck Lennon as such a genuinely nice man.

[Bogle]

Yeh, I’ve always believed that too. Another example... not quite as striking, but Arlo Guthrie became a Ron Paul fan.

[redrhino47]

John was approaching 40, poor working class back ground,
and knew what leeches were.
He was destined to be a conservative.

[ETL]

The only reason John "Give Peace a Chance" Lennon was against communist revolution was because he believed the revolutionaries wouldn't have a chance against the military and police. "Back in the USSR (you don't know how lucky you are)", "Power to the People", "Revolution", "Imagine", were all pro-communist songs.

The Lost John Lennon Interview
"Power to the People"

TA (interviewer): In a way you were even thinking about politics when you seemed to be knocking revolution?

JL (Lennon): Ah, sure, 'Revolution' . There were two versions of that song but the underground left only picked up on the one that said 'count me out'. The original version which ends up on the LP said 'count me in' too; I put in both because I wasn't sure. There was a third version that was just abstract, musique concrete, kind of loops and that, people screaming. I thought I was painting in sound a picture of revolution--but I made a mistake, you know. The mistake was that it was anti-revolution.

On the version released as a single I said 'when you talk about destruction you can count me out'. I didn't want to get killed. I didn't really know that much about the Maoists, but I just knew that they seemed to be so few and yet they painted themselves green and stood in front of the police waiting to get picked off. I just thought it was unsubtle, you know. I thought the original Communist revolutionaries coordinated themselves a bit better and didn't go around shouting about it. That was how I felt--I was really asking a question. As someone from the working class I was always interested in Russia and China and everything that related to the working class, even though I was playing the capitalist game.

http://beatlesnumber9.com/lostlennon.html
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Title: Revolution
Artist: John Lennon

"You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright"

http://johnlennon.lyrics.info/revolution.html

[Meatspace]

Lennon association with Monday Night Football is eerie.

[dfwgator]

True, Cosell was the one who broke the news of his assassination.

[ETL]

"At one time I was so much involved in the religious bullshit that I used to go around calling myself a Christian Communist, but as Janov says, religion is legalised madness. It was therapy that stripped away all that and made me feel my own pain."

--John Lennon

http://beatlesnumber9.com/lostlennon.html

[ETL]

TA [interviewer]: That's the vital point. The working class must be instilled with a feeling of confidence in itself. This can't be done just by propaganda--the workers must move, take over their own factories and tell the capitalists to bugger off. This is what began to happen in May 1968 in France...the workers began to feel their own strength.

JL [John Lennon]: But the Communist Party wasn't up to that, was it?

RB: No, they weren't. With 10 million workers on strike they could have led one of those huge demonstrations that occurred in the centre of Paris into a massive occupation of all government buildings and installations, replacing de Gaulle with a new institution of popular power like the Commune or the original Soviets--that would have begun a real revolution but the French C.P. was scared of it. They preferred to deal at the top instead of encouraging the workers to take the initiative themselves...

JL: Great, but there's a problem about that here you know. All the revolutions have happened when a Fidel or Marx or Lenin or whatever, who were intellectuals, were able to get through to the workers. They got a good pocket of people together and the workers seemed to understand that they were in a repressed state. They haven't woken up yet here, they still believe that cars and tellies are the answer. You should get these left-wing students out to talk with the workers; you should get the school-kids involved with The Red Mole.

http://beatlesnumber9.com/lostlennon.html

[Drew68]

I follow his son Sean Ono Lennon on Twitter. He's got a lot of pro-Trump people following him as well. He was posting regularly for a while though it appears he's stepped back from Twitter a little bit these past few weeks.

[ETL]

JL [John Lennon]: But you can’t take power without a struggle...

TA [interviewer]: That’s the crucial thing.

JL: Because, when it comes to the nitty-gritty, they won’t let the people have any power; they’ll give all the rights to perform and to dance for them, but no real power...

YO: The thing is, even after the revolution, if people don’t have any trust in themselves, they’ll get new problems.

JL ]John Lennon]: After the revolution you have the problem of keeping things going, of sorting out all the different views. It’s quite natural that revolutionaries should have different solutions that they should split into different groups and then reform, that’s the dialectic, isn’t it—but at the same time they need to be united against the enemy, to solidify a new order. I don’t know what the answer is; obviously Mao is aware of this problem and keeps the ball moving.

RB: The danger is that once a revolutionary state has been created, a new conservative bureaucracy tends to form around it. This danger tends to increase if the revolution is isolated by imperialism and there is material scarcity.

JL: Once the new power has taken over they have to establish a new status quo just to keep the factories and trains running.

RB: Yes, but a repressive bureaucracy doesn’t necessarily run the factories or trains any better than the workers could under a system of revolutionary democracy.

JL: Yes, but we all have bourgeois instincts within us, we all get tired and feel the need to relax a bit. How do you keep everything going and keep up revolutionary fervour after you’ve achieved what you set out to achieve? Of course Mao has kept them up to it in China, but what happens after Mao goes? Also he uses a personality cult. Perhaps that’s necessary; like I said, everybody seems to need a father figure.

But I’ve been reading Khrushchev Remembers. I know he’s a bit of a lad himself—but he seemed to think that making a religion out of an individual was bad; that doesn’t seem to be part of the basic Communist idea. Still people are people, that’s the difficulty.

If we took over Britain, then we’d have the job of cleaning up the bourgeoisie and keeping people in a revolutionary state of mind.

http://beatlesnumber9.com/lostlennon.html