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Fact Check: Pennsylvania Did Not Tally More Mail-in Votes In The Presidential Election Than Actual Ballots Received: The 1,823,148 number appears to be the number of mail-in ballots requested for the June 2, 2020 primary election in Pennsylvania
Lead Stories ^ | 11/27/2020 | Olivera Perkins

Posted on 11/28/2020 9:13:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind



Did the mail-in vote count (2,589,242) in the presidential election in Pennsylvania exceed the actual number of ballots sent to voters (supposedly 1,823,148) and were 1,126,940 votes "created out of thin air"? No, that's not true: The Pennsylvania Department of State's website for election returns shows that about 2.6 million mail-in ballots had indeed been counted as of November 27,2020. More than 3 million voters had requested mail-in ballots as of the October 27, 2020 deadline, according to a news release the same day from Governor Tom Wolf's office. The 1,823,148 number appears to be the number of mail-in ballots requested for the June 2, 2020 primary election in Pennsylvania, not the November 3, 2020 election.

The claim appeared in an Instagram post (archived here) published November 26, 2020 showing a Rogan O'Handley tweet that read:

Today at the Pennsylvania election hearings, we learned that 1.8 million absentee ballots were mailed out for the 2020 election

Do you know how many were counted?

2.5 million

I'm no genius, but I'm pretty sure ***700,000** phantom votes is evidence of

Widespread FRAUD

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(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)

Similar claims were made in an Instagram post on November 26, 2020.

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(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)

The same false claim was later tweeted by Senator Doug Mastriano (archived here) and subsequently retweeted by President Trump:

The 1,126,940 votes were created out of thin air. I won Pennsylvania by a lot, perhaps more than anyone will ever know. The Pennsylvania votes were RIGGED. All other swing states also. The world is watching! https://t.co/zmnk34Ny23 -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2020

President-elect Joe Biden received 1,995,691 mail-in votes, according to The Pennsylvania Department of State elections website on November 27, 2020. President Donald Trump received 595,538 in mail-in votes. Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen received 24,783, for a total of 2,616,012 mail-in votes. The website states that "These vote totals do not include any votes from mail ballots received between 8 p.m. on election day and 5 p.m. the following Friday."

The website's numbers show that the claims made in the above Instagram posts don't stack up because they fail to state the correct number of mail-in ballots requested: more than 3 million.

The number "1,823,148" probably originated when someone tried to look up the number of Pennsylvania mail-in ballot requests and landed on a page listing statistics for the June 2, 2020 primary election in that state, for example a page like this (archived here). It shows a dataset provided by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania described as:

This dataset describes a current state of mail ballot requests for the 2020 primary election. It's a snapshot in time of the current volume of ballot requests across the Commonwealth.

Specifically, it contains a table that lists the exact number of mail ballot requests for that election:

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As you can see, this is not data about the November 3, 2020 Presidential election.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: elections; fakeelection; fakenews; ibtz; mailinballots; oliveraperkins; pennsylvania; zot
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To: SeekAndFind

Since when is a fact discussed as ‘appears to be’? Sounds like you like to put up smoke to cause confusion.


81 posted on 11/29/2020 12:38:36 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t you understand by now how they work? The right levees a claim... then the left throws a bunch of similar but disprovable stuff out on the internet for Snopes to debunk... it is disinformation 101


82 posted on 11/29/2020 12:45:13 AM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: smokingfrog

>>Trump gets twice as many votes as Biden on Election Day, but Joe’s mail in vote count is four times higher than Donald’s?
>>The odds on that happening are pretty much nil.

And allegedly every Democrat ballot went to Biden but over a hundred thousand Republican ballots went to Biden as well.


83 posted on 11/29/2020 1:12:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The false media spin begins!
President Trumps lawyers know
full well the numbers. They’re
nowhere near stupid enough to file
false claims. The complicit
media will go down with the
rest of these TREASONOUS bast*rds.
These people really do want to
see a civil war break out.


84 posted on 11/29/2020 1:31:55 AM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: MAGAthon

rejection rate is ridiculous:

Mail Ballots returned: 2,629,672
Mail Ballots Rejected: 7,411

about 960,000 Mail Ballots were returned by:

Philadelphia
Allegheny
Montgomery

Allegheny had only 65 of 350,790 ballots rejected 0.0%.
Philadelphia had 232 of 271,798 rejected 0.1%

anomalies:

***Pike had 663 of 1,876 rejected 4.8%
***Fulton had 182 of 1,415 rejected 12.9%

all other counties had less than 1% rejected; many zero or 0.1 or thereabouts.
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html


85 posted on 11/29/2020 1:59:01 AM PST by MAGAthon
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes it could have been. He might have known what was being planned.


86 posted on 11/29/2020 2:02:45 AM PST by IgnorerOfLiberals
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To: MAGAthon

Same in GA.. rejection rate normally is around 3-5%, this year, its .3%

It coincides with illegal changes to election laws in GA by the SOS as well, I think many states had bad actors who changed procedure without any legislative authority to do so.


87 posted on 11/29/2020 2:10:06 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: SeekAndFind

Is Snopes still run by the goofy looking dude, his Jabba the Hutt looking ex wife and the prostitute he ditched his ex wife for... then married expecting her to be a “wife”, who then became Jabba the Hutt like?

Yes, I thought so.

*FLUSH*


88 posted on 11/29/2020 3:14:58 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Suffice to say, in the end, whoever is better at math wins this point.

Good luck with that common core, lefties!


89 posted on 11/29/2020 3:23:19 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The SOS office is supposed to tally the number of ballots daily as they are sent out through the US Postal Service.

The 3 million claim by Wolf came weeks AFTER the election.

The 1.8 million is what they were telling us on election day.

So what we have here is the Rats modifying the number to meet the threshold of manufactured ballots. They could not tell us the real number BEFORE election day because they did not know how many fake ballots they would need to steal the election. This number needs to be matched up with US Postal Service ledgers. Let’s see how long THAT investigation takes. They got caught.


90 posted on 11/29/2020 4:19:02 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Leaning Right; calenel; libh8er

Wait, what? You mean we can’t rely on two adulterous hillbillies in a trailer in Arkansas to check our facts for us? What has the world come to?


91 posted on 11/29/2020 4:22:43 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: LegendHasIt

Unfortunately free republic is full of people who will gladly advance and repeat the media narrative just to show how much better informed they are than the Trump voting rubes.

For some reason they think kissing media ass qualifies them for the grown-up table.


92 posted on 11/29/2020 4:27:30 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: MAGAthon

As I understood the argument, every registered Democrat was mailed a ballot during the primaries. The primaries were contested. That number totaled x.

In the intervening months ballots were sent out for the general election. This number totaled x + y.

The y is a significant difference.

Yet the democrat registration numbers in the state did not increase so as to explain the y.

The State has not released its actual numbers for the general election so as to provide an explanation for this discrepancy. It would help if they did.


93 posted on 11/29/2020 4:47:20 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: hopespringseternal

why Trump must be declared the winner of Pennsylvania (any combination of the following, plus anything else others can add to the list - or subtract if something has been definitively debunked):

Tweet: Team Trump
WATCH: Crowd gasps after finding out that a mysterious spike of votes in Pennsylvania had 600,000 votes for Biden and only 3,200 for
@realDonaldTrump
VIDEO 1m26s
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1331680682578501632?s=09

Poll observers being denied entry into a Philadelphia vote counting site, despite a court order allowing them entry:

Tweet: Jack Posobiec
BREAKING: Republican observers barred from entering Philly vote counting center even after receiving court order
VIDEO 38sec
6 Nov 2020
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1324409681163538432

11 Nov: LawEnforcementToday: Thousands of ballots still in question in Pennsylvania – here’s why that’s so important
Republicans attest that Pennsylvania polling officials restricted access for ballot counting and verification to certified Republican party poll watchers.
A state court judge in Philadelphia ruled in favor of Republicans after suit was filed, and the Democrat Party in the state is appealing.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/thousands-of-ballots-still-in-question-in-pennsylvania/

10 Nov: The Federalist: I Was In Philadelphia Watching Fraud Happen. Here’s How It Went Down
At issue was President Trump’s request for an order changing the way Pennsylvania absentee and mail-in ballots are being reviewed at the Philadelphia Convention Center.
By Jerome M. Marcus, attorney in private practice in Philadelphia
President Trump went to court about two problems: First, only a handful of Republican observers—substantially fewer than the Democrats had there—were being admitted to the room at the Philadelphia Convention Center where inspections were being conducted. Second, the few who could get in weren’t permitted to get close enough to see what was actually happening. The most important questions all have to ask are: Why all the hiding? What’s being hidden?

At the Convention Center counting location, I personally observed dozens of Trump campaign volunteers being barred from the counting room even though they’d been properly registered as observers. That’s why I urged Pam Bondi and Corey Lewandowski, who were on the scene, to authorize the filing of a request that a federal court order the Board of Elections to stop this nonsense.

More hiding: despite a binding order of the state’s Commonwealth Court, the handful of Republican observers who could get into the room weren’t being allowed up to the barrier set at six feet from the closest tables where work was being done. So even though they were in the room where it was happening, they had no way to tell what was happening. If there’s no fraud, why is the Democrat-controlled Board of Elections unwilling to let people get close enough to actually see what its people are doing?...

Other people have gathered substantial evidence that there are indeed things to hide, including this video (LINK) showing, among other things, footage of government officials wearing Joe Biden facemasks filling in blanks in already-submitted mail-in votes...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/i-was-in-philadelphia-watching-fraud-happen-heres-how-it-went-down/

10 Nov: NBC Philadelphia: Lawsuits, Injunctions, Court Briefs, Oh My: Donald Trump’s Legal Battles in Pa. Explained
By Brian X. McCrone
U.S. Supreme Court case: Republican Party of Pennsylvania v. Boockvar, Pennsylvania Secretary of State
This lawsuit potentially seeks to have none of the mail-in ballots received by county election boards after 8 p.m., Nov. 3, counted toward the state’s final tally...
RULING (SO FAR): The Supreme Court told Pennsylvania to segregate those ballots received after the 8 p.m., Nov. 3, time and asked for a response for Boockvar by Saturday, Nov. 14...
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/lawsuits-injunctions-court-briefs-oh-my-donald-trumps-legal-battles-in-pa-explained/2590205/

Over 20,0000 absentee ballots have return dates that just defies logic, over 80,000 have return dates that should raise concerns.

Reports of people older than 100, even alive during the civil war.


94 posted on 11/29/2020 4:49:31 AM PST by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

Trump’s election people should have ensured the 6 ft rule /observation issue the DEMS were sure to mandate was in fact, dis-allowed for being able to do the job as observers, poll challengers, etc. They should have had a Judge’s order in hand, ahead of time.

Some states had in their rules “workers may get closer then 6 ft social distancing in order to see the QVF files, ballots to do their job”. Once they are finished, they need to step back.


95 posted on 11/29/2020 5:30:55 AM PST by Engedi
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To: SeekAndFind

Who and what is “Lead Stories” and why are they the only source we have for this “revelation”?

A quick search had this in an info box:

“Lead Stories is a biased outfit bristling with ex-CNN staffers that presents itself as neutral, despite most of its employees having donated to the Democratic Party, a conservative outlet has revealed.”


96 posted on 11/29/2020 5:42:56 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Snopes is made up of demonrat hacks & pathologists liars - they are COMPLETELY UNTRUSTWORTHY!!!


97 posted on 11/29/2020 5:49:01 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: SeekAndFind

Snopes is a leftist website as reliable as Pravda.


98 posted on 11/29/2020 5:59:59 AM PST by ohioman
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To: SeekAndFind

You have apparently joined the other side.


99 posted on 11/29/2020 6:01:53 AM PST by ohioman
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To: MAGAthon; All

You’re quoting someone who is quoting Giuliani. That’s hearsay.

What you have to pay attention to is what the direct party in the case has to say and that would be the Defendants namely the Governor and the Secretary of State of PA. Where are they? Where are their lawyers?

Why is the 2020 General Election data locked up? It’s the only dataset that is off limits. All other datasets, all of them are open at OpenData PA. Go look yourself. All election data is updated real-time so that people can see what is going on. But data for the 2020 election is now locked, why? Because the state of PA is hiding it. That is a red flag. You should be asking about that but noooo, you need to be distracted and made to think Giuliani is a buffoon

The fact is there were about 1.8 million sent out to Democrats in BOTH THE PRIMARY AND THE GENERAL. That should make sense to anyone following. It’s really simple and we should not allow the groups behind this treasonous coup to twist things to blame Giuliani for being stupid to use PRIMARY data.

The enemies of the United States assume we are so stupid to think that 1.8 million Democrat ballots mailed for the primary would tie us up from thinking 1.8 million Democrat ballots would not be mailed out for the General election.

Did the number of registered Democrats change significantly between the Primary and General Elections? No. It remained largely the same.

The deadline for registering to vote in the General Election in PA was October 12, 2020. Reports at the time had Democrat voters registered at about the same level as for the Primary.

I have scanned the social media and I see plainly what they are trying to do. They are in attack mode on Giuliani. They will fail because the real verifiable numbers will come out in court. IN COURT!

What you and others are doing is allowing yourselves to be sucked into their game of sowing discord and confusion. They aim to insert doubt into public discourse so that state legislators won’t be empowered to use their powers to seat their own Electors or nullify the Elector slate put forward by corrupt state SOS’s (Soros backed).


100 posted on 11/29/2020 6:07:57 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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