Posted on 11/28/2020 9:13:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Did the mail-in vote count (2,589,242) in the presidential election in Pennsylvania exceed the actual number of ballots sent to voters (supposedly 1,823,148) and were 1,126,940 votes "created out of thin air"? No, that's not true: The Pennsylvania Department of State's website for election returns shows that about 2.6 million mail-in ballots had indeed been counted as of November 27,2020. More than 3 million voters had requested mail-in ballots as of the October 27, 2020 deadline, according to a news release the same day from Governor Tom Wolf's office. The 1,823,148 number appears to be the number of mail-in ballots requested for the June 2, 2020 primary election in Pennsylvania, not the November 3, 2020 election.
The claim appeared in an Instagram post (archived here) published November 26, 2020 showing a Rogan O'Handley tweet that read:
Today at the Pennsylvania election hearings, we learned that 1.8 million absentee ballots were mailed out for the 2020 election
Do you know how many were counted?
2.5 million
I'm no genius, but I'm pretty sure ***700,000** phantom votes is evidence of
Widespread FRAUD
(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)
Similar claims were made in an Instagram post on November 26, 2020.
(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)
The same false claim was later tweeted by Senator Doug Mastriano (archived here) and subsequently retweeted by President Trump:
The 1,126,940 votes were created out of thin air. I won Pennsylvania by a lot, perhaps more than anyone will ever know. The Pennsylvania votes were RIGGED. All other swing states also. The world is watching! https://t.co/zmnk34Ny23 -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2020
President-elect Joe Biden received 1,995,691 mail-in votes, according to The Pennsylvania Department of State elections website on November 27, 2020. President Donald Trump received 595,538 in mail-in votes. Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen received 24,783, for a total of 2,616,012 mail-in votes. The website states that "These vote totals do not include any votes from mail ballots received between 8 p.m. on election day and 5 p.m. the following Friday."
The website's numbers show that the claims made in the above Instagram posts don't stack up because they fail to state the correct number of mail-in ballots requested: more than 3 million.
The number "1,823,148" probably originated when someone tried to look up the number of Pennsylvania mail-in ballot requests and landed on a page listing statistics for the June 2, 2020 primary election in that state, for example a page like this (archived here). It shows a dataset provided by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania described as:
This dataset describes a current state of mail ballot requests for the 2020 primary election. It's a snapshot in time of the current volume of ballot requests across the Commonwealth.
Specifically, it contains a table that lists the exact number of mail ballot requests for that election:
As you can see, this is not data about the November 3, 2020 Presidential election.
You’re listening to news put out by that criminal?
RE: Snopes is a leftist entity.
Sure they are, but I still want you to refute the figures they presented and tell me they’re wrong.
RE: You’re listening to news put out by that criminal?
So, you’re saying that the data from the PA official website is being put out by criminals?
RE: Snopes is a joke, and I take no joy in posting this, but Rudy’s numbers may have been incorrect, per this article and the update at the bottom of it.
I take no joy in seeing Rudy being incorrect too, but I am EVEN MORE SORROWFUL in seeing people continuing to REPEAT his mistake, from the Spectator to the NOQ Report.
And when I point it out here — somehow, instead of analyzing the data to show that Rudy is perhaps right, I get attacked ( shaking my head in sorrow ).
“A Florida professor meticulously tracked the early mail-in voting in Pennsylvania. including the number of absentee ballots requested and the number returned, all while noting party registration. and county. Richard says, “I tracked this every day and the numbers requested and received were both over 2.5 million. This information is on the Pennsylvania state election website and the professor’s. I have no idea where Rudy gets his numbers, but they are wrong.” In other words, to the extent Rudy says 2.5 million mail-in votes got counted, the professor’s data says that the same number were both requested and logged-in as returned.”
This is easy. The FL Professor (why wasn’t his name written out?) has the right numbers but the wrong context.
Rudy’s numbers referenced the numbers of registered Democrats that were mailed ballots. Rudy focused on Democrats. The FL professor didn’t.
I will repeat, the only arguments to follow are those in the court room. Follow what the parties to the lawsuit say and no one else because you’ll just get confused and make yourself miserable. People on the outside of the legal case don’t have access to the data and the facts.
Watch Rudy and the Defendants in the cases he files. If for example, the State of PA responds, then we’re talking. But so far they are staying silent and/or playing dumb. That’s because they have been caught.
Because they are aholes who are perhaps insecure of their own beliefs.
Don't let them get to you and you're doing a great job.
If you believe SNOPES is a joke why did you use it? Why do you believe Tom Wolf is an honest person? He has done everything he can to destroy his state and hurt his people. Do you not see that?
Thank you
> “And when I point it out here — somehow, instead of analyzing the data to show that Rudy is perhaps right, I get attacked ( shaking my head in sorrow “
You poor thing.
I’ve tried to tell you several times but you don’t learn.
I’ll repeat it one more time.
Those challenging Rudy’s numbers don’t have access to the data or the facts. The State of PA has sealed the data.
The State of PA is the only legitimate challenger of Rudy’s numbers, no one else.
But the State of PA has not responded, why?
Because they know they are caught, they know they got problems. They are hoping the clock runs out.
RE: If you believe SNOPES is a joke why did you use it?
Because unlike you, I don’t dismiss everything they say as false. I take it on a case by case basis.
Look, it is the same with the Trump supporting site: The Gateway Pundit. Many of their claims don’t pass the smell test, but many do. I don’t dismiss everything they say as wrong.
Wait and see love. Soon you’ll know what I’m calling these people is true. But I’ll give you time to digest what is coming all of our way soon enough. But the answer to your question is yes. Criminals.
I guess that is true. Criminals in the insane asylum I would trust before David Mikkelson. How much did he steal from his wife again?
at the risk of creating more confusion, thedonald.win were on to this story quickly and claimed Rudy clarified the 1.8m he referred to was for the Primaries. finding that spot in the video of the hearings and listening to further discussion might confirm this.
when it was suggested on thedonald.win that the following thread be pulled down because the info was incorrect, someone replied:
thedonald.win
COMMENT: Nope. Not at all. Rudy Giuliani ***clarified the 1.8 Million ballots were sent during the Primaries in August and 1.4 million apparently casting their vote. He further went on to elaborate how the hell 2.5 million (now 2.6 million) got to cast their vote less than 2-3 months later for the Presidential election.
There is further no reason to delete the page containing the 1.4 million cast on the PA Website, unless they got something to hide, with Giuliani having the proof.
Thank the mods indeed with the clarification under it: “The 1,126,940 is essentially people who didn’t participate in the primary, but still voted democrat”
OTHER COMMENTS:
Yes, Rudy even says so in his opening statement. 1.824 million were sent during the Primaries, 1.4 million were counted. Where does the 2.58 million come from within the space of just 2-3 months? How do all these +1.2 million extra ballots end up in Biden’s favor enough to bridge the 700.000 gap?
That is what Giuliani is explaining...
Yes, this ^^^ Rudy is explaining that statistically this makes no sense from what we have seen in prior elections. This wasn’t a mix-up of numbers, but shows an anomaly outside the standard deviation...
***Yes, this ^^^ Rudy is explaining that statistically this makes no sense from what we have seen in prior elections. This wasn’t a mix-up of numbers, but shows an anomaly outside the standard deviation...
Yes, this ^^^ Rudy is explaining that statistically this makes no sense from what we have seen in prior elections. This wasn’t a mix-up of numbers, but shows an anomaly outside the standard deviation.
https://thedonald.win/p/11QS32RxxL/those-fuckers-printed-one-millio/c/
will look at *** in a follow-up.
thedonald.win thread began with the Tweet showing the image that was used to claim 1.8m were sent out vs. 2.5m approx. were counted, but the Tweeter never provided evidence for that image:
Tweet: Colderroses
Yes
IMAGE Pennsylvania official votes (@11/24 8PM):
https://twitter.com/Colderroses/status/1331661593713774595
one person on above thread linked to:
21 Oct: Lancaster Online: Pa. reports 3 million mail-in ballot applications so far
by MIKE WERESCHAGIN
With fewer than 12 days before the election, Pennsylvania’s 67 counties have approved nearly 3 million mail-in ballot applications, Department of State officials said Wednesday. That’s almost twice the number of mail-in ballots approved during the June primary.
This year’s election is the first in which the state allowed no-excuse absentee voting...
Before June, counties had never dealt with more than 84,000 mail-in ballots, Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar told LNP Media | LancasterOnline in September...
Below is a breakdown of mail-in ballots as of Oct. 21:
Statewide:
Total: 2,861,900
Democrats: 1,825,587 (64%)
Republican: 714,079 (25%)
Other: 322,234 (11%)
Return rates
Statewide:
Total returned: 1,179,808 (41% return rate)
Democrats: 847,349 (46% return rate)
Republicans: 227,481 (32% return rate)
Other: 104,978 (33% return rate)
Slices of the electorate
Statewide:
Total registration: 9,050,870 (13% vote-by-mail turnout)
Democratic registration: 4,220,397 (20% vote-by-mail turnout)
Republican registration: 3,526,857 (16% vote-by-mail turnout)
Other: 1,303,616 (8% vote-by-mail turnout)
There have also been 57,650 votes cast over the counter — Pennsylvania’s early-voting process, in which voters request an absentee ballot in person, fill it out and hand it back in one visit.
As of Wednesday a total of 1,237,458 votes had been cast in Pennsylvania, which amounts to 45% of all votes cast in the 2020 presidential primary and 20% of all votes cast in the 2016 presidential election.
https://lancasteronline.com/news/politics/pa-reports-3-million-mail-in-ballot-applications-so-far/article_d97adc88-13e6-11eb-9815-47306b1b8f57.html
I have been posting the following at FR for several days. however, the info at the link has been updated so I am posting the latest info below the first link:
18 Nov: US Elections Project: Pennsylvania Early Voting Statistics
Mail Ballots Returned: 2,629,183
Requested ballots: 3,088,123
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
US Elections Project: Pennsylvania Early Voting Statistics
Last Report: 11/20/2020
Source: Data provided by Pennsylvania Secretary of State’s office
Mail Ballots returned: 2,629,672
Democrats 1,702,484 64.7
Republicans 623,404 23.7
Minor 20,111 0.8
No Party Affiliation 283,673 10.8
Mail Ballots requested: 3,087,524
Democrats 1,941,131 62.9
Republicans 784,851 25.4
Minor 25,367 0.8
No Party Affiliation 336,175 10.9
Mail Ballot Request by Age
TOTAL 3,087,524 100.0
Mail Ballots Rejected: 7,411
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
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