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Georgia Lawsuit: Witness Testifies About Use of Different Paper For ‘Counterfeit’ Ballots, ‘Watermark Solid Grey Instead of Transparent’ – 100% For Joe Biden
Gateway Pundit ^ | November 27, 2020 | Christina Laila

Posted on 11/27/2020 11:34:10 AM PST by Golden Eagle

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To: DrewsMum

Seems there are plenty of better targets for your anger.


81 posted on 11/27/2020 2:25:37 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: DrewsMum
There has not been a trial yet or the opportunity for open court testimony. I hope you realize that.

Hundreds of sworn affidavits by witnesses to serious wrongdoing is very powerful.

No one has refuted the facts in a single sworn affidavit.

This is extremely powerful evidence. The irrelevant nitpicking you do does not address any of the substantive evidence of fraud.

82 posted on 11/27/2020 2:48:19 PM PST by detective
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To: The Pack Knight

Good points, but doesn’t it depend on what the affidavit’s purpose is? Under Rule 54 practice, it is common to use affidavits.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/committees/trial-evidence/practice/2019/third-party-affidavit-statements-admissible/

The affidavits attached to to complaint in this case are being used to defeat a summary dismissal by showing that there are facts to be developed at trial.


83 posted on 11/27/2020 3:20:12 PM PST by maro (MAGA!)
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To: kiryandil

https://twitter.com/ImagesMD/status/1332371005096988672

Federal law requires retention of ballots and signatures (images) for 22 months. Some precincts in Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Phoenix and Las Vegas may not be able to comply and risk disqualification.

pic.twitter.com/tDKlAZifMv— Alfred (@ImagesMD) November 27, 2020


84 posted on 11/27/2020 3:29:56 PM PST by bitt (The left gave us 4 years of Pearl Harbor. Now its time to give them Hiroshima.)
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To: maro

I think I mentioned that elsewhere in the thread, but yes, affidavits can be used in certain pretrial proceedings such as motions for summary judgment under Rule 56 (54 governs default judgments). There, the judge is not being asked to weigh the evidence, just determine whether there is any evidence sufficient to create a fact question to be resolved at trial, so affidavits are appropriate (in fact, live testimony is not allowed in summary judgment proceedings).

Affidavits need not be attached to the complaint for that purpose. She may have attached them to support a temporary restraining order (I have not yet read the whole complaint so I don’t know if she asked for that). TROs are ex parte and are supported by affidavit, but are only short term until there can be a hearing on a preliminary injunction, which last until trial. PIs require a full evidentiary hearing with live testimony, not affidavits.


85 posted on 11/27/2020 4:28:24 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Golden Eagle
I've been waiting for this. Ballots are not produced by states, but by a handful of private companies nationally.

There was a lot of reporting on these companies in the summer and into fall, easily discovered on the internet (I did that several weeks ago).

One company in Arizona handles the balloting production and mailing for multiple states and has openly stated that it sent more than 50 million ballots for this election (it might have been 80 million, don't recall exact number).

States do not individually have any capability to produce, label, and mail ballots to their citizens. It's all contracted.

DHS was purportedly involved in "ballot security" with these companies, but has declined to comment on what measures might have been taken. And some states require (or prohibit) watermarking by statute.

86 posted on 11/27/2020 4:46:33 PM PST by Jeepers43
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To: glimmerman70
One wonders where Biden's alleged 130,000 ballot dump actually came from.

States do not manufacture, mail, or possess ballots. They provide mailing lists to a handful of contracted external companies (the largest is in Arizona) and these contracted companies produce and mail all ballots directly to registered voters.

Under those conditions - which had been reported openly in the news before September - how would any entity obtain blank ballots?

There's an answer to that:

Fake. Copies. China.

87 posted on 11/27/2020 4:53:01 PM PST by Jeepers43
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To: Jeepers43

Thanks. Maybe Pieczenik was actually on to something regarding the “blockchain sting” which was of course the original source. Not holding my breath but fingers crossed.

https://www.brighteon.com/0d693a1f-b5d8-46f8-a843-73b2a7d5ec4d


88 posted on 11/27/2020 4:59:56 PM PST by Golden Eagle (List of Cable News Alternatives ----> http://freerepublic.com/~goldeneagle/ <---)
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To: Golden Eagle
It's easy enough to search for mainstream news articles about 2020 paper ballot production, distribution, and some will mention paper ballot security (but as already stated, DHS declined to comment on that topic).

It would not be surprising that some kind of watermarking might have been applied to the paper used in ballot production.

But keep in mind that (like all other election matters) states do specify the process right down to paper and watermarking (e.g., CA statutes address both). So for any federal entity to override those state prerogatives might be a little dodgey, especially if done "secretly."

Hence, even if watermarking WAS done - and I'm personally skeptical due to the logistics of such a thing - I wouldn't expect that to be made public.

89 posted on 11/27/2020 5:37:44 PM PST by Jeepers43
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To: Jeepers43
Hence, even if watermarking WAS done - and I'm personally skeptical due to the logistics of such a thing - I wouldn't expect that to be made public.

Our US Government dollar bills are certainly watermarked, visibly, and I would guess that most every person in this country has at least 1 bill of some sort in their possession, so it could certainly be done.

Regarding the potential of all votes in every state being watermarked, I'd say that potential is zero. My guess is some watermarking is done in some states or precincts. My hope is that it was done where it was needed - in the contested states, and especially in their larger cities.

90 posted on 11/27/2020 5:51:29 PM PST by Golden Eagle (List of Cable News Alternatives ----> http://freerepublic.com/~goldeneagle/ <---)
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To: The Pack Knight
Here is the language of the actual rule, Rule 801(c) of the Federal Rules of Evidence:

(c) Hearsay. “Hearsay” means a statement that: (1) the declarant does not make while testifying at the current trial or hearing; and (2) a party offers in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted in the statement.

You seem to ignore the exclusions from hearsay which include the following, covering thing actually said and known personally by the person making the statement under oath as to what they experienced and witnessed:

Rule 801(c) of the Federal Rules of Evidence: Exclusions from Hearsay

The following definitions apply under this article:

(a) Statement. “Statement” means a person’s oral assertion, written assertion, or nonverbal conduct, if the person intended it as an assertion.

(b) Declarant. “Declarant” means the person who made the statement.

(c) Hearsay. “Hearsay” means a statement that:

(1) the declarant does not make while testifying at the current trial or hearing; and

(2) a party offers in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted in the statement.

You just cited (c) above, ignored the direct personal sworn statements of (a) and (b) but also ignored (d) 1 A-C, which cover the pertinent to your claims of sworn statements of hearsay in court testimony where the witness may be cross-examined. Why is that if not for obfuscation of the truth of these sworn statements having the status of evidence like any other piece of providential evidence or testimony capable of being entered before a judge in trial.

91 posted on 11/27/2020 11:27:27 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: detective

I know there hasn’t been a trial with open court testimony.

But maybe you should inform mr. Hoft and gateway pundit of that. Because they are either confused or being disingenuous.
I suspect the latter.


92 posted on 11/27/2020 11:30:54 PM PST by DrewsMum
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To: bray

An expert on what?

It’s not hard to pick out clickbait.

And it’s laughable that when someone calls out a source for being misleading with facts, then they’re automatically liberal. Come on. Get a grip.


93 posted on 11/27/2020 11:34:42 PM PST by DrewsMum
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To: kiryandil

Can you direct me to that source? I 100%believe you, but I need a reputable source to show my people.


94 posted on 11/27/2020 11:38:56 PM PST by DrewsMum
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To: kiryandil

Why isn’t the press screaming about ‘sanctity of the vote’?


95 posted on 11/27/2020 11:39:01 PM PST by GOPJ (VOTER FRAUD UNDERMINES AMERICAN DEMOCRACY)
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To: Jeepers43
Under those conditions - which had been reported openly in the news before September - how would any entity obtain blank ballots?

That’s easy. Having worked in graphic arts in the past, I know that any professional printing operation with multiple modern high-speed offset six color presses could turn them out. Very fast. . . if you need to have them pre-voted just fill in the correct Biden bubbles before creating the print plate (remember the perfectly filled in bubbles on the pristine non-creased, non-folded Biden only, no down-ballot vote, ballots reported seen?) and you’re good to go.

96 posted on 11/27/2020 11:41:56 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: dp0622

Pretty much right on the mark


97 posted on 11/28/2020 12:11:23 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life. )
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To: bray

On the mark!


98 posted on 11/28/2020 12:14:22 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life. )
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To: Golden Eagle

Grateful we have dedicated patriots trying to report truth.


99 posted on 11/28/2020 12:17:17 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life. )
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To: DrewsMum

Just reading through this thread and it seems you should take your own advice.


100 posted on 11/28/2020 12:21:43 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life. )
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