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Enough with the "Voter Fraud" Language. It's BALLOT STUFFING

Posted on 11/23/2020 5:26:43 AM PST by cotton1706

Ballot Stuffing. Plain and simple.

On a massive scale.

It's how democrats gain, then maintain power.

But we got one past their gauntlet!

And they've been screaming about it for four straight years.

By hook or by crook he was going to be removed from office.

But there's always another election coming, and they are desperately seeking to maintain control over their means to power.


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To: frnewsjunkie

Just be careful with the treason accusation. It’s the only crime actually defined by the Constitution.

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court.”


21 posted on 11/23/2020 6:17:32 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: A_perfect_lady

Do a bit more math...

There are plenty of States with much lower, known turnouts.

That makes the balance of States OVER 100%.


22 posted on 11/23/2020 6:19:00 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: frnewsjunkie

It’s TREASON!!!!!!!!
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This is the same discussion that was held on another thread this past weekend. The words cheating, fraud, interference, misconduct and that most despicable word, shenanigans etc. should not be part of this discussion. The words treason, treasonous, sedition, insurrection, coup and of course, coup d’état are the words that describe exactly the level that this is at.


23 posted on 11/23/2020 6:19:03 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: cotton1706

there is the criminal definition of treason and then there is the commonly accepted non legal definition of treason..
betrayal of trust treachery..etc


24 posted on 11/23/2020 6:28:05 AM PST by rolling_stone (shime...)
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To: cotton1706; All
This was a Soft Coup.

No guns or military. Just ballot manipulation and media coverup

But a coup attempt nonetheless.

25 posted on 11/23/2020 6:35:07 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: cotton1706

It’s a Coup.


26 posted on 11/23/2020 6:36:40 AM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never be a peaceful slave to a Socialist new America.)
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To: kvanbrunt2
What slays me is the Left/media's predictable retreat to claiming such things as insignificant or unimportant unless an accuser (even a blind man that's only "seen" the elephant from one viewpoint and simply reports what he saw) has demonstrated tampering that would have "changed the result," all such accusations are to be dismissed and we should "move on, nothing to see here."

Hell no! Such cover only exacerbates the problem for subsequent elections and never roots out any bad guys. In how many elections have Philadelphia precincts shown more votes than registered voters? AFAIK, it never has be rectified! With such reliably repeated under-the-rug-sweeping, election fraudsters surely by this time have become so skilled at their election tampering that they can easily clone it to show any number of desired votes in any Pennsylvanian county.

The media thereby effectively throw the burden of proof back onto all accusers. The media's tactics would in the case of multiple, separate (even coordinated) tamperings appear to make it the whistle blowing observer's responsibility to prove the entire combination of frauds to reach the criterion over "overturning the election." What a wonderful way to make it easier for criminals while literally battling against justice and sleuths! How they laugh when calling citizen detectives "conspiracy theorists."

Using the media/Left criteria, if Rudy, Lin or Sidney don't have they entire picture, "dey gots bupkis!"

If tampering has been shown, the goal of influencing the election may always be assumed. Why else do it? Whether the criminal(s) were successful so as to overthrow the result is merely to be found along the spectrum of their skills, not ON-of-OFF, whether the crime occurred. But no, the Mockingbird media have so effectively trained us! "We must first have proof that it would have 'overturned the election."   Ptui!

It's this set of circumstances that have combined to lower Americans' trust in their election system. It's (stereotypically) the street-guy that lets his vote be traded for a pack of cigarettes that gets caught while the DVSs, Soros, and Eric Coomers of the world are left, election after election, to multiply the size of their election frauds using the pieces of silver from previous crimes.

27 posted on 11/23/2020 6:46:40 AM PST by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: cotton1706

Be careful?? How old are you? There was a time when men were held accountable for their actions... it kept many from “going there”.. today it’s common and no one uses the right word to describe the many efforts used to overthrow Trump’s government and set up their own socialist one.. and why does that woman... you all call by letters... why is she allowed to live here... and worse than that.. have a seat in our government. You think she is there to serve the people of the United States?

that camel’s nose has been under the tent for a long time... no one cared... he’s all the way in that tent. he’s taken over the education system.... no one cared till it got so bad it was noticeable.. that camel is in the religion tent.. he wants everyone out but him... and no one cares....
no one cares enough to do something.. to stop the madness... it takes a head aimed to clean up what acquiescence has let come in and take over. it’s happened since the late 90’s. and before that the 60’s when the likes of bernie got their wings to take over..

all this because it was not nice to fight for what is right.
in a war, if you are the only one playing nice and fair..... you will lose!! i am tired of losing and turning my country over to the enemy.,,when I have grandchildren who has to live in whatever we leave them as our legacy..
right now ... it stinks!!


28 posted on 11/23/2020 6:54:28 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: HotHunt

It might have been more quickly winable if guns and warfare had been involved.


29 posted on 11/23/2020 6:56:03 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: cotton1706

ballot stuffing requires physical ballots being placed in a box

try to imagine just 140,000 ballots being hauled in. 2 page ballots would mean about 280,000 sheets of paper. a single ream is 200 sheets and about 3” tall. this would require 1,400 reams of paper ... which would be 350 feet tall, if stacked.

no. ballot stuffing is not the issue.

the biggest fraud, for POTUS, isn’t from dead voters, cat voters, multi-ballot voters, or multi-state voters. MILLIONS of votes were switched or just created out of thin air

that requires software.


30 posted on 11/23/2020 7:02:19 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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To: cotton1706

Why do you think they let the Republicans keep the Senate?


31 posted on 11/23/2020 7:33:10 AM PST by semimojo
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To: frnewsjunkie

My point was that you’re not going to get anywhere with a treason definition other that that proscribed in the Constitution, in a court of law or otherwise. The charge just won’t be valid unless it falls within that criteria.


32 posted on 11/23/2020 8:54:30 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Supposing that Biden is officially proclaimed President.

We have in Trump someone who has the resources to continue fighting, resources which few others have. And he has millions of enthusiastic supporters who want to continue fighting. So he and they must continue fighting. Until many people are tried, convicted and jailed.

That would send a powerful message to anyone who is tempted to cheat in future. It would also damage the legitimacy of any Biden presidency.

Taking this one step further. Supposing it is proved conclusively that it was Trump who actually won the election. What would then happen to the Biden presidency? Would he be stripped of his position?


33 posted on 11/23/2020 9:27:19 AM PST by Mr Information
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To: cotton1706

My point is .... they used to hold it more strict and anyone near it was suspect. .. mccarthyism.... and so which is best... none or too much..

My point comes from a time when parents raised kids to be respectful and today it’s an insult. I do have grown children and grands... both had better be respectful to me and they know it.. it isn’t out of duty it’s out of caring.

Everything has gone off the deep end with just about everything... if you live long enough, you feel it... you see it...
I was raised north of the mason dixon.. I live south of that line. Down in the south, they teach children to say “yes sir and no sir...yes maam and no maam.. “ it sounds respectful and it usually turns out a child that uses it IS more respectful.

I could never have raised my kids with someone else’s rules...one of my sons said I had no gray area. No I don’t... and you know where I stand on just about every issue.
this gray area has drained into our every day life and into accountability and into government and into our churches and into ‘just about everything.’

it’s why there is no (shush... shush).. treason.
we are too easy on the swamp characters and too hard on ordinary people... There is no will to do the right thing and there is no will to hold accountability for all... there is a weakness among this country.. a laziness... a too comfortable attitude...

judges let the guilty go out the back door... but I’d bett that same judge would hold a minister of a church if he found him preaching or talking on the street...about the Bible.. about Jesus...
some judges are not judges...they are activists and not fit to judge anyone.
people accept what they want to hear and refuse to listen to what they do not want to hear. few will listen and be changed in their thinking.

But that creep... that acquiescense.... that laziness... that ‘let someone else do it” is the enemy of all that could be right in this country.. if everyone knew treason was serious and it needs to be explained and taught... do not mess with a duly elected President... you can vote in the next election...
I never understood the votes for obama...except most are fooled these days and he did a masterful job of it for those who wanted to be fooled. I welcomed Trump.. those who are half asleep and pay no attention... OR those who have their indoctrinated minds already made up.. do not like him. I always want to know the reason.. it’s usually some picadilly thing not worth mentioning... and thus, makes the antiTrump people ignorant at best. They don’t care except for their own seared minds.


34 posted on 11/23/2020 9:30:09 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: cotton1706

https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/22/something-rotten-in-pennsylvania/?fbclid=IwAR1KSv6Hf_rORkrAgr9yexXBf7752O-iWGj19AvXEoNsARXz7BZpVbFj09w


35 posted on 11/23/2020 9:35:09 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: cotton1706

Ballot stuffing is vote fraud.


36 posted on 11/23/2020 11:05:14 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus
ballot-box-stuffing
37 posted on 11/23/2020 11:13:35 AM PST by timestax
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