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The futuristic cargo ship made of wood
BBC ^ | 17 Nov 2020 | Jocelyn Timperley

Posted on 11/18/2020 12:51:56 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

With the hull and sail design based on a trading schooner built in the Åland Islands, Finland, in 1906, from the horizon Ceiba will have the appearance of a classic turn-of-the-century vessel, when the last commercial sail-powered ships were made. “They represented the peak of working sail technology, before fossil fuel came in and cut them off at the ankles,”

...Ceiba is small for a cargo ship – tiny in fact. She will carry around nine standard shipping containers. The largest conventional container ships today carry more than 20,000 containers.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: agw; biggovernment; climatechange; stupidity
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This is just the beginning. Our new Green Navy will do away with steel hulls, with wooden, sail-driven aircraft carriers and wooden submarines. I guess the crew would have to use pedal power to drive the propeller. I’m sure our adversaries will go easy on us, seeing as we’re trying to save the planet and all.


21 posted on 11/18/2020 1:09:30 PM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole; you had so much to offer, did you offer your soul?)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m also a big fan of it for recreation. The idea that I could go anywhere on just the wind is what drew me to it. Cargo shipping... not so much.


22 posted on 11/18/2020 1:09:47 PM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: dainbramaged

No need for bankruptcy. It’s a hippie operation. Some hippies will use it to live on.

Companies do not like their product sitting in warehouses or slooow ships. Time is money. Containers are rented.


23 posted on 11/18/2020 1:17:27 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: blam

The blacks are the cargo doncha know /sarc/.


24 posted on 11/18/2020 1:27:08 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Petrosius

As the Costa Rican venue suggests, they may intend on Third World pay scales to make such ships profitable.


25 posted on 11/18/2020 1:32:14 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: rarestia

26 posted on 11/18/2020 1:37:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: cyclotic

“The large ships make the cost per ton almost nothing. Cost per ton on a nine container ship must be astronomical. But hey, climate change and all”

I think it is called “The Square Cube Law” If you you double the size of a ship the water resistances squares but the volume cubes, so big ships are inherently more efficient than two ship with 1/2 the size.


27 posted on 11/18/2020 1:45:42 PM PST by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Paladin2
From the Wikipedia article:

She was in service between 1962 and 1972 as one of only four nuclear-powered cargo ships ever built.

And therein lies the problem.

28 posted on 11/18/2020 1:47:09 PM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You have to love the BBC. Did anyone catch this at the bottom of the article?

“”The emissions from travel it took to report this story were 46kg CO2. The digital emissions from this story are an estimated 1.2g to 3.6g CO2 per page view. Find out more about how we calculated this figure here.””

With that being said, more power to these people. Their dime and their time.


29 posted on 11/18/2020 1:48:36 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It’s foolish to build ships of wood. Even sailing ships.

The same ship could be built of steel for 1/2 the money and 1/4 the time. They would be safer and require less maintenance.

And could be much larger.


30 posted on 11/18/2020 1:58:55 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: rarestia

“Sailing is relatively cheap as fuel goes, but you’re at the whim of the wind.”


After reading the Patrick O’Brian series you get a feel for how much a sailing vessel was a the mercy of the winds. If the wind is blowing the wrong direction, you can’t even leave harbor, let alone get underway. And then there’s how many crew you need to man the sails. Modern health and safety can’t be too happy requiring sailors to trim sails during a storm.


31 posted on 11/18/2020 2:16:11 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It appears that the age of reason and logic has passed./


32 posted on 11/18/2020 2:16:33 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: hanamizu

It’s possible to tack upwind, but it’s not fast. Despite training to do it, I’ve never left a harbor or port under wind power alone.


33 posted on 11/18/2020 2:32:41 PM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: cyclotic

OMG! They are killing trees to make a cargo ship. That is so futuristic.


34 posted on 11/18/2020 2:34:21 PM PST by Parmy
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Guessing that some advances in hull configuration have been made in the last hundred years?

A few days ago, conservative talk show host John Batchelor interviewed the author of Barons of the Sea: And Their Race to Build the World's Fastest Clipper Ship:

https://www.amazon.com/Barons-Sea-Worlds-Fastest-Clipper-ebook/dp/B075RNR7T9/

I was surprised to hear that the fastest of those ships held speed records that lasted well into the 20th century.

For example, the clipper ship "Flying Cloud" set a record time for sailing from New York to San Francisco: 89 days 8 hours. That record held from 1854 to 1989.

35 posted on 11/18/2020 3:35:53 PM PST by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: TChad

“That record held from 1854 to 1989.”

WOW!!!

Slightly connected, but an excellent read about an amazing man and his thirty year quest to win a boat race:

A Full Cup: Sir Thomas Lipton’s Extraordinary Life and His Quest for the America’s Cup
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=9781101188750&i=stripbooks&linkCode=qs


36 posted on 11/18/2020 4:03:05 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Yo-Yo

” It’s a hippie commune”

Yes!
And someone pouring money in for what reason?


37 posted on 11/18/2020 4:06:14 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
A Cargo sailing ship? Made out of wood? Futuristic? Yes, if you were using a lot as a ship.. BBC reported on this crap? What Bull s H It...

It's a futuristic as a biplane passenger plane... 😀

38 posted on 11/18/2020 6:37:55 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (We might be DEPLORABLES, but we don't cheat like Dems)
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To: Mariner

I’m a sailor. Own a 40 ft fiberglass sailboat. Would never buy a wooden boat. Too much maintenance and we have termites in our marina. I don’t even have wooden steps leading up to the boat because of them.


39 posted on 11/19/2020 7:46:35 AM PST by sheana
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