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There are a number of us die-hard users of the Mozilla Firefox and the Thunderbird email client. Thunderbird version 78 was download to my desktop computer this afternoon and promptly screwed up my screen and put my mail tabs on top (Firefox did the same thing last year and there is a fix for that involving inserting code). In the Thunderbird case, a simple add-on fixed the problem. The earlier version (2.0.0.0) does not solve the problem but the current version updated last week does (2.0.0.1).

Browser designers like to think that newer is better, but changing design and function every few months is a horror for many of us - leave it as it is!!

1 posted on 11/02/2020 3:46:30 PM PST by CedarDave
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was updated to 78 today and it BROKE Email, had to download and install 68.12.1 like I had, and of course EVERYTHING is Gone, no address, nada. still downloading 4 years of messages of server to get up to date, and UPDATE is now turned off.

FRIKKIN IDIOTS!! STOP letting Children do things without Adult Supervision.


2 posted on 11/02/2020 3:59:51 PM PST by eyeamok
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Just use G-mail like everyone else does these days. To hell with 3rd party email clients of any kind.


3 posted on 11/02/2020 4:10:06 PM PST by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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Another thing about Thunderbird 78. It (by default) enforces use of TLSv1.2 and disallows (by default) any mail service that does not provide TLSv1.2. What does this mean?

In my case, it meant that when Thunderbird updated itself to 78, all my email send/receive functions stopped working and “hung”. And no error message — just sat there “connected” but unable to proceed.

I finally figured out that there is a way in the Config Editor to change settings to allow mail services that have the older TLS versions (v1.0 and v1.1). Those older ones are less secure, so they’re now deprecated.

Playing with the Config Editor is like playing with Windows Registry via RegEdit. Not for the faint of heart!

I plan to post a thread about this in a day or so.

4 posted on 11/02/2020 4:20:26 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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I just “upgraded” from version 68 to the latest version 78. My folders now have a black outline with a white interior instead of the yellow folder I did have before.

I also have several duplicate email address’s.
Tabs are on top right under File | Edit | View etc


6 posted on 11/02/2020 4:38:59 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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78.4.0 here.
I use the default “theme”. I never even noticed that the tabs are above the toolbar. /grin

I’ll stick with Thunderbird. I have a BUNCH of email accounts on a private domain and don’t really want to let Google get more hooks in than they already have.

I do not work for the State Department and the server is not in my bathroom.


8 posted on 11/02/2020 5:00:22 PM PST by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: I have an alibi.)
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I’m a die hard FF and TB user. I’m on v78 and it looks different but nothing broke other than some weird folders popped up on my gmail account. I fixed it using the web version of gmail but it was a PITA. I have some customization to FF and TB so that might be helping me out.

I’m considering ditching both products and using Outlook (gasp) and chrome (double-gasp) because the Mozilla products are making me feel like I’m an alpha tester.


12 posted on 11/02/2020 6:19:06 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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For later review...


15 posted on 11/02/2020 7:19:18 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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What mail tabs? Mt T-bird 78 top looks like T-birdTop
17 posted on 11/02/2020 8:08:23 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Thanks - I just turned off auto-updates and will let them fix it before I allow any other changes.


19 posted on 11/03/2020 3:33:38 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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I updated to 78 and regret it!

All my text is microscopic and there is no longer a font management add-on for this version.

21 posted on 11/03/2020 6:44:03 AM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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