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Anyone live in Michigan? RCP has Biden up? What is story on ground?

Posted on 10/27/2020 8:00:14 PM PDT by LeonardFMason

Tom Bevan of RCP was on Laura Ingraham and says Biden increasing lead in Michigan.


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KEYWORDS: biden; garlingilchrist; gretchenwhitmer; michigan; polls; trump; wretchedgretchen
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To: LeonardFMason

I live in the North. Biden signs are few and far between, except in Traverse City. Have traveled all the way up to the tip of the Keweenaw and except for a handful of signs in campus housing in Marquette, Trump owns the Upper as well. I’m sure Wayne and Genesee and Ingham counties will fraud it for all they’re worth though. They usually do.


21 posted on 10/27/2020 8:13:23 PM PDT by Jhadur ("You are not ready for immortality.")
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To: LeonardFMason

Trump himself says he is up +3. Must be his internal polling.


22 posted on 10/27/2020 8:14:32 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine I donÂ’t think we need one)
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To: semimojo

Rip is indeed liberal. And you can’t average a bunch of polls when most are bogus media push polls over sampling Dems by 8 or 9 puts. Trump has internals saying he is up +3. He said it today. And two other polls have him up.


23 posted on 10/27/2020 8:19:10 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine I donÂ’t think we need one)
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To: kiryandil

And the auto industry. And before Queen Whitmer.


24 posted on 10/27/2020 8:19:17 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: LeonardFMason

The RCP has two fatal problems.

No. 1 is that it is an average of different polls that use very different methodology and representative samples, it like taking a Summer day and and Winter day and declaring that it’s Spring.

No. 2 is that all but one of the polls that comprise the RCP are run by Democrats and are running partisan polls.

Michigan is very close, but Biden does not have a lead that means anything. Trend is toward Trump.


25 posted on 10/27/2020 8:19:33 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: semimojo

Bevan having a history as a Republican and being a regular on Fox News these days equates to being a NeverTrumper.

Fox cannot seem to go two minutes without hyping negative poll numbers for PDJT or any Republican for that matter.

I consider Fox News to be essentially part of Biden’s campaign.


26 posted on 10/27/2020 8:19:55 PM PDT by edie1960
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To: MrChips

RCP I meant.


27 posted on 10/27/2020 8:20:27 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine I donÂ’t think we need one)
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To: snarkytart

Did you check the numbers? Trump won last time because he got a much bigger share of the black vote than Romney did.

The Democrats know this so they manufactured the Trump is a white supremacist bs. But it didn’t work. Trump’s approval among blacks is at an all time high now.


28 posted on 10/27/2020 8:22:15 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Jhadur; A_perfect_lady
and except for a handful of signs in campus housing in Marquette

The UP's Watermelonville - green on the outside, red on the inside.

29 posted on 10/27/2020 8:23:19 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: snarkytart

[but but but according to most Freepers POTUS is doing better with blacks.

lol

We always fall for “this time the black vote will come out bigger than ever for our side” BS.

never learn]


Kushnerism. I don’t know how much Jared had to do with Trump’s amnesty for drug dealers, but I gotta think that this does a number on Trump’s law and order messaging. When Trump reminds people that Biden was a big law-and-order guy in the 90’s, is that really a message that gets independents to vote against Biden? Many independents are just liberaltarians who don’t want to get mugged. Biden’s decades-old law-and-order creds are an asset, not a liability. The #1 black priorities are racial quotas and gibsmedat. No way Trump is competitive with Biden on those issues. Overall, that side of it has been a big snipe hunt.


30 posted on 10/27/2020 8:23:58 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: LeonardFMason

If Sleepy wins they will turn hard into this COVID junk. More regulations, rules, mandates. Michigan can stop it all dead in its tracks by voting Trump. Everyone is counting in them. Let’s pray they get it right


31 posted on 10/27/2020 8:24:00 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: MrChips

You were right the first time...


32 posted on 10/27/2020 8:24:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: MrChips

I laughed, BTW.


33 posted on 10/27/2020 8:24:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Phillyred
media-led sheep. They'll all be in line to get the mark.

Which could be sooner than one thinks.

34 posted on 10/27/2020 8:25:48 PM PDT by Maudeen (Wake up true believers in Christ and VOTE!)
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To: LeonardFMason

Hiden Biden has really been hiding from Michigan:
“I can’t even find a sign,” Sabbe says outside a Kroger’s in Sterling Heights, where surrounding cars fly massive Donald Trump flags that say “No More Bullsh-t” and fellow shoppers wear Trump T-shirts for their weekend grocery runs. “I’m looking for one of those storefronts. I’m looking for a campaign office for Biden. And I’m not finding one.”
https://time.com/5889093/joe-biden-michigan-campaign/
LOL!
Apparently, Hiden’s campaign in Michigan has been online, but his wife is going there.


35 posted on 10/27/2020 8:25:56 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: LeonardFMason

No way is Biden going to win here in Michigan. Snowballs chance.


36 posted on 10/27/2020 8:27:10 PM PDT by PackingHeat357
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To: Zhang Fei

Overall, that side of it has been a big snipe hunt.
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I agree. I’m not for prison reform because all it means is releasing a bunch of thugs back onto the street without any kind of proper training to go back into society.

I never got the slamming Biden on his tough on crime stuff 25 years ago, because I think it’s a good thing too.

However, it’s 2020 and Biden will be ruled by the BLM and ANTIFA wing of his party.


37 posted on 10/27/2020 8:27:37 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: MrChips
And you can’t average a bunch of polls when most are bogus media push polls

I have never understood why people give RCP so much credibility. Garbage in, garbage out. Combining a bunch of questionable polls just gives you more bad information on which you're basing your opinion.

In 2016, the more unconventional analytics seems more predictive than the established pollsters. I think we're seeing a repeat of that this year.

38 posted on 10/27/2020 8:29:54 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Joe Biden: Showing his leadership by cowering in the basement like a scared child.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The dog whistles they accuse Trump of was all the rave for Biden in the 90s. So much so that if Trump goes to the heart of Philly and plays Biden in the Senate floor Biden turnout numbers will crater. I really hope someone from the campaign does this. Even if not Trump. BTW, making a play for the Black vote is another reason why Trump may still pull this off. Not sure why you all think ignoring black people is a viable solution going forward. If the recidivism rate has been low it’s win win in my estimation. Accusing Trump of being soft on Crime is ridiculous


39 posted on 10/27/2020 8:30:17 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Maudeen

Everything is in place it seems. I never could imagine it as a kid or young adult. Now I can clearly.


40 posted on 10/27/2020 8:30:51 PM PDT by Phillyred
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