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The Real Debate is Between Fauci and Other Scientists, Not Fauci and Trump
The Stream ^ | October 26, 2020 | D. Axe, W. Briggs, J. Richards

Posted on 10/26/2020 11:47:10 AM PDT by Heartlander

President Trump has finally taken the gloves off when it comes to his inherited advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci. In a call..., the president reportedly described Fauci as a “disaster.” In the debate on Thursday night, he was conciliatory toward Fauci. But Trump is right to be mad. Fauci gave the president bad advice on lockdowns, and yet the public health official has paid no price for it. On the contrary, the press has lionized Fauci. That’s made it hard for the president to pivot away from the lockdowns.

Unfortunately, by taking on Fauci directly, Trump allows the media to frame the dispute as Trump versus “the science,” with Fauci as the stand-in for the science. The real debate, though, is between Fauci and the growing body of scientific evidence that contradicts his advice. What’s more, there are thousands of scientific experts who are ready to talk about that evidence.

The lopsided influence of a few scientists like Fauci is the result of what we call the tyranny of experts. Being a public health official is not a gold medal for scientific acumen. It confers no advantage when it comes either to smarts or to public policy. Officialdom merely allows narrow specialists to exercise power in areas outside their ken and competence.

Imagine, for instance, if an immunologist who had worked for decades in the federal government told the president that if he doesn’t shut down the country, 2.2 million people would die. And imagine if that advice were based not on evidence but on a computer model that other expert modelers later described as “a buggy mess that looks more like a bowl of angel hair pasta than a finely tuned piece of programming.” Finally, imagine if that advice were protected from critique by other reputable scientists.

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1 posted on 10/26/2020 11:47:10 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

That What I Have Been Saying!

Fauci is not the only expert in this field and they are more specialized experts in the private sector than in the givernment, which gets most of its expertise From The Private Sector!!!

Faux Xi


2 posted on 10/26/2020 11:50:26 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Heartlander

DO THE MATH:

330,000,000= USA population 100 %

30,000,000 =10 %

3,000,000 = 1 %

300,000 = .1 %

226,000 dead = less than 1/10th of a percent of the population.

Restate the ACTUAL Covid deaths where obesity, high blood pressure, etc were already present, and you get to about
13,000 dead ONLY from Covid.

Roughly 6% of the deaths are COVID ONLY.


3 posted on 10/26/2020 11:53:29 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Heartlander

DO THE MATH:

330,000,000= USA population 100 %

30,000,000 =10 %

3,000,000 = 1 %

300,000 = .1 %

226,000 dead = less than 1/10th of a percent of the population.

Restate the ACTUAL Covid deaths where obesity, high blood pressure, etc were already present, and you get to about
13,000 dead ONLY from Covid.

Roughly 6% of the deaths are COVID ONLY.


4 posted on 10/26/2020 11:53:48 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Heartlander

Fauci flip flops on science more than Biden flip flops on policy which says a lot when it comes to his credibility


5 posted on 10/26/2020 11:54:31 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: ridesthemiles

330,000,000 = 100% (US population)

33,000,000 = 10%

3,300,000 = 1%

330,000 = 0.1%

226,000 dead out of US population = 0.075%


6 posted on 10/26/2020 12:04:57 PM PDT by RooRoobird20
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To: chuckee

Fauci is NOT AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST!!!

He is NOT an expert on epidemics and pandemics!!!

He’s a physician and immumologist-—and a Hillary-loving Deep State narcissist.


7 posted on 10/26/2020 12:08:01 PM PDT by RooRoobird20
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To: Heartlander; Vendome; ridesthemiles; All
Here's a WONDERFUL 'debate' regarding FRAUDci's 'science'......

This ad is a MOAB for Dr. Fauci’s reputation and Biden’s virus talking points.

Nothing left of either. pic.twitter.com/j7DVTJMUxC— BDW (@BryanDeanWright) October 21, 2020


8 posted on 10/26/2020 12:08:02 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Heartlander
The Real Debate is Between Fauci and Other Scientists, Not Fauci and Trump

Since Fauci backed funding for the Wuhan Lab to study coronavirus, he should've been ruled out from the start for conflict of interest and probably investigated (if the FBI weren't tied up trying to overthrow The President).

9 posted on 10/26/2020 12:17:51 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Until I see them breaking rocks in the hot sun I'll be cleaning my guns!)
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To: Heartlander

The other scientists are just not narcissistic attention hounds. So you rarely hear from them.


10 posted on 10/26/2020 12:36:47 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Vendome

I blame Mike Pence for allowing Dr. Tony to construct this legend. Should have squashed him like a bug back in April.


11 posted on 10/26/2020 12:37:33 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Heartlander

Just bought it from amazon for my kindle.


12 posted on 10/26/2020 1:07:49 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (A Man Hears What He Wants to Hear and Disregards the Rest)
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To: Heartlander; All
".... Imagine, for instance, if an immunologist who had worked for decades in the federal government told the president that if he doesn’t shut down the country, 2.2 million people would die. And imagine if that advice were based not on evidence but on a computer model that other expert modelers later described as 'a buggy mess that looks more like a bowl of angel hair pasta than a finely tuned piece of programming.' Finally, imagine if that advice were protected from critique by other reputable scientists...."

Sounds EXACTLY like the climate change argument.

If you'll notice, the Left uses the same basic arguments with all of their schemes because they are nothing more than the same ruse they put forth to achieve their socialist revolution.

13 posted on 10/26/2020 1:23:47 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Heartlander

THE ABSURDITY OF “COVID CASES”
Except for comment re. vaccines, this is one of the BEST & shortest summations of the current national insanity I’ve seen. 
If you agree, share it. Perhaps even some of the SHEEPLE will “GET IT” before Fauci, Gates, Soros and our other would-be masters close & lock the gate to the Globalist corral behind us.
(The internet NAZIS have tagged this site as “suspect”. Yeah, Mises is about FREEDOMS THEY find problematic!)
https://mises.org/wire/absurdity-covid-cases


14 posted on 10/26/2020 1:29:53 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Heartlander

Fauci is a bureaucrat, and nothing but a bureaucrat. The fastest way to become useless in any STEM area, be it science, IT, or whatever, is to go into management. This turd has been a bureaucrat bump on a log for decades. When is the last time this hack is dirtied a lab code for anything other than a photo op?


15 posted on 10/26/2020 1:34:47 PM PDT by Mr. Rabbit
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