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Wind mills, Batteries, What?
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Posted on 10/24/2020 4:35:22 PM PDT by justme4now

I've been lying awake at night ..


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To: PLMerite
Edgar Allan Poe liked the hallucinations of laudanum, a relative of Dilaudid.

61 posted on 10/24/2020 7:28:11 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC)
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To: BenLurkin
YEP!


62 posted on 10/24/2020 7:30:40 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix
Please Christian brother and sister...pray RIGHT NOW...STOP what you are doing..kneel down and ask God in the name of Jesus to ‘restore America’ and protect President Trump. Do It NOW... this IS the most powerful HOPE for our Republic...Please ...... PRAY RIGHT NOW.🙏🏻 May God Bless America!🇺🇸 I will repost this MOST critical post ‘repeatedly’ from now until the election. Pray that we all truly begin to pray.💫 Your brother, in the love of Jesus, RevelationDavid.
63 posted on 10/24/2020 7:32:10 PM PDT by RevelationDavid (Don't just 'know about God'...... KNOW GOD....!)
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To: Cold Heart

Yep, you just make a law declaring that airplanes be powered by magic non-fossil fuel, non-nuclear, magic, self-generating electricity and let someone smart figure out how to make it happen. The possibilities are literally endless when you don’t deal in reality.


64 posted on 10/24/2020 7:34:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: justme4now
Have an electric motor that blows air to the back of the plane which moves it through the air. That motor is driven by a generator which has a propeller turned as the plane moves through the air.

65 posted on 10/24/2020 7:35:25 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC)
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To: RevelationDavid

I’m praying for Trump and that God would restore sanity to this nation. Great post.


66 posted on 10/24/2020 7:35:29 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: RevelationDavid

Click the Pic

67 posted on 10/24/2020 7:37:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: parmamenian

“It’s amazing to think that a single gallon of gasoline has enough energy to move a 5000 lb vehicle 15 to 20 miles. Tough to beat!”

...and right now in Texas a gallon of gasoline is 40 to 60 cents less than a gallon of milk.


68 posted on 10/24/2020 7:58:45 PM PDT by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: justme4now

They’re going to have 450 out-of-work Pennsylvanians pump up the pressure chamber for the water tank that, when the built-up pressure is released, will shoot it up and straight to its intended target, lofting gently to the ground on a parachute.

It worked SO well in my backyard as a kid, I don’t see why not.


69 posted on 10/24/2020 8:36:21 PM PDT by _longranger81 (Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves; defend the defenseless; care for the unloved.)
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To: justme4now

70 posted on 10/24/2020 10:17:54 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: treetopsandroofs; justme4now; deport

I’m glad you mentioned that this had already done, decades ago.

The airplane was so certain to be done they built a special Hanger for it at the Idaho national lab site.

The scale of the place cannot be described, just experienced.


71 posted on 10/24/2020 11:04:27 PM PDT by Oil Object Insp
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To: bigbob

***Put the turbine (generator) at the top of a hill and the windmill at the bottom. When the wind blows, pump water up to a reservoir at the top of the hill and when it doesn’t, run the water through the generator and make electricity.
***

There’s no need to postulate this. It already exists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludington_Pumped_Storage_Power_Plant

Note, though, that it’s a mile wide, and two and a half miles long. It will only store only a half a day’s energy when the wind doesn’t blow. It’s actually designed to supplement nearby nuclear plants. These, too , are despised by the Green Energy kooks.


72 posted on 10/25/2020 5:52:19 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: justme4now

Serious answer: We are currently seeing battery powered planes & solar powered planes. Both have limitations, but that is bound to improve. Fuel cells also have promise for the future.

We cannot predict the future. People in times past could not imagine cars, planes, & space vehicles. There is no limit to what will come in the future. I have no doubt that planes will be powered by other than fossil fuels, WHEN these power options surpass the efficiency of current fuels. Already scientists are working on matter transfer. Teleporting will make the commercial airliner, cars, & trains obsolete.

BTW, I do not believe in anthropogenic global warming, I firmly support the use of fossil fuels, & don’t believe mankind has sufficient knowledge & ability to positively affect global climate, nor do I trust politicians to do the right thing, even if they could.


73 posted on 10/25/2020 8:42:46 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da
"Serious answer: We are currently seeing battery powered planes & solar powered planes. Both have limitations, but that is bound to improve. Fuel cells also have promise for the future."

"We cannot predict the future. People in times past could not imagine cars, planes, & space vehicles. There is no limit to what will come in the future."

A 370 ton aircraft powered by batteries?
(747 max takeoff weight)

Solar?
(Think I'll pass!)

One other thing ... Are we going to build "stuff": planes, trains, automobiles etc. etc. without "fossil fuels?"

How will we build these solar cells, windmills, batteries and almost everything else?

Sure, in the 'olden days' we got our building materials out of the earth with picks and shovels.

We also used anvils to hammer metals into "stuff"!

My point?

There was a reason that horses supplied the energy to move those folks around.

Windmills didn't work for those folks either! 8-)
(Yes, they had windmills)
74 posted on 10/25/2020 1:42:08 PM PDT by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: justme4now

The Navy is already planning on flying it’s Jets with nuclear power made jet fuels made from seawater. At even $6 a gallon it’s cheaper than shipping it via tanker half way around the world to a war zone. Fuel at the front lines can cost up to $400 a gallon of JP8 when the delivery,security cost is included.

https://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/transportation/article/21962589/us-navy-gamechanger-converting-seawater-into-fuel

The Europeans pay nearly $9 a gallon and get along just fine. What this technology means is it puts a absolute ceiling on petrol prices of $6 ish a gallon. Because at that price point the move to synthetic liquid fuels will be in full effect.


75 posted on 10/25/2020 7:54:56 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: smokingfrog

Airbus and Boeing both have viable hydrogen commercial aircraft plans should they be needed or economical.

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2020/09/airbus-reveals-new-zeroemission-concept-aircraft.html

On a btu for btu basis nuclear heat and basebar power is cheaper than even natural gas. The current spot price for a lb of UO2 is $35 lb. At an avg burn up of 45 gigawatt days per Mton of HM is 0.15 CENTS per kilowatt hour. For process heat on a btu for btu basis is 15 cents per million btu vs 3 dollars for one million btus of natural gas and at 5.777 mmbtu per barrel @$40 for a bbl of WTI =$7.10 MMBTU for West Texas oil.

Nuclear is a political problem not a technical one. Korea and China both install nuclear power for $1500 OR LESS a kilowatt in capital costs. Fuel costs as has been shown are fractions of a US CENT per kilowatt hour. This is due to the insanely high energy density of nuclear power 200 million electron volts per atom of uranium. Vs a few tens of electron volts per atom of combustion of hydrogen or carbon. A single fuel pellet the size of a gumball has the energy of a 9000 gallon tanker truck full or oil or two railcars full of coal it’s insane how dense it is literally the stuff that holds the universe together.


76 posted on 10/25/2020 8:12:53 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: PeterPrinciple
I was just thinking today that hydroelectric power is maybe the best energy source...take advantage of running water...no pollutants...no ugly windmills for miles and miles and miles along some of the most scenic areas in our country....

but the enviro wackos are against dams as well.

77 posted on 10/25/2020 8:15:46 PM PDT by cherry
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To: justme4now

How will farms produce food without diesel fuel to run combines, grain trucks and tractors?


78 posted on 11/02/2020 11:52:15 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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