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80-year-old former Marine dies after confrontation with bar patron not wearing a mask
Pennlive ^ | 6 October A.D. 2020 | Janet Krajcsik

Posted on 10/06/2020 8:20:42 AM PDT by lightman

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To: lightman

Had a 40ish guy (I’m 69) yell at me for not covering my nose with my mask. I had it down as was standing in a food order line talking with my wife and the lady who owns the martial arts school where I teach. I basically ignored the guy. He didn’t like me ignoring him so he jumped off his stool and rushed me. Muscle memory kicked in and I made a MA move that missed his nose by .000001 inch without making contact ... we train to do that for control. He backed up instantly. I guess he got the message ... he went back to his stool while his wife stood up yelling that I tried to kill her husband. Dude thought that I was just an old fat guy ... exactly the kind of martial artist that you don’t mess with BTW (60+ years in the arts 30+ years teaching) ... He thought I was an easy target for mask bullying ... hope he learned to never underestimate an opponent.


61 posted on 10/06/2020 9:06:10 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: lightman

Sorry the old guy died like that but there are missing details. One thing is clear, don’t confront strangers unless you have too.


62 posted on 10/06/2020 9:06:23 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You are absolutely correct. I’m retired law enforcement and have responded to situations just like that. I tend bar part-time now and witnessed this type situation. I had two mildly inebriated customers get into an argument which led to pushing and shoving. They were aware of the rules about fighting in the bar. They mutually agreed to take it outside. their friends tried to dissuade them and keep them apart. They were determined to have it out. Outside the punches started flying. One guy took a punch to the side of his head, fell down sideways and hit his head on the curb. Dead-right-now. The guy that threw the punch was charged but eventually was plead down and he was sentenced to a long probation period. Civil law suit is still pending.


63 posted on 10/06/2020 9:06:42 AM PDT by sageburn
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To: The Iceman Cometh

These mask Nazis are annoying, but not worth killing.


64 posted on 10/06/2020 9:06:53 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: oh8eleven

I hope that’s not the Manager. Looks like he woke up on the wrong side of the Bar. “What TF are YOU Lookin’ at, Buddy?”


65 posted on 10/06/2020 9:07:38 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: lightman

Not for nothing, but if an 80 year old man is at a bar he actually doesn’t really care about his own safety when it comes to COVID and therefore has no business confronting others. I’m assuming there is a lot more to this story than what is printed.


66 posted on 10/06/2020 9:09:43 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Leaning Right

My money is on the old guy making the first contact or threatening violence.


67 posted on 10/06/2020 9:11:10 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Mr. K

I know that kind of area. Very low IQ.


68 posted on 10/06/2020 9:11:39 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Joe 6-pack
"The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."

A prescient episode, as many TZs are.

69 posted on 10/06/2020 9:13:07 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: lightman

Occasionally, actually rarely, I put things into the category of “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.” This is one of them when it comes to the two involved in this story. Plus there is little that I believe in the media, so it most likely happened in a completely different manner. With that said ... Tommie the Commie and the his dickless butt buddy are to blame.


70 posted on 10/06/2020 9:14:31 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: Maelstorm

“mind their own fucking business”

Were you trigger when you reply? Just curious with the f** word. Must be a cultural difference, not use to so many curse words and hate express on FreeRepublic lately.

I do have a democrat friend from the north that uses curse words regularly, it has to be a cultural thing.


71 posted on 10/06/2020 9:14:59 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: rktman
The Mask Nazis disregard the specifics where it states physical distancing. What happened to that?

I see, your stupid masks that can't stop Pollen is going to save you from CoV-2. Better be a fitted N95, ya numbnuts!

72 posted on 10/06/2020 9:18:24 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: lightman

He was probably on warfarin.


73 posted on 10/06/2020 9:20:00 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: dandiegirl

This is nothing new in CA. I see people all day long OUTSIDE no one around them walking their dog with mask on, riding a bicycle with mask on OMG the media has created such hysteria BUT I don’t only blame this on the media the American people have lost their GRIT and courage we are becoming a nation of WHIMPS!! This daily COUNT on every damn case is getting to be ridiculous we have NEVER, EVER done this until Trump and you can bet your last dollar that if Obama were still POTUS counting would have been halted months ago!! They halted counting on H1N1 damn near immediately THEN the bastards depleted the national stockpile of PPE AND shipped all manufacturing of it to CHINA making it more difficult for this administration to acquire it in a time of need!! Trump has NOT brought this up in ads OR debate!! He needs to hammer this home about the REAL JOB Biden did during his pandemic!!


74 posted on 10/06/2020 9:20:10 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I’ve been wearing a body camera in public spaces for precisely THIS.”

BINGO! as do I. It works surprisingly well to avert potential situations. Seems the Karens and Kens don’t like the possibility that they may have to take responsibility for their actions.


75 posted on 10/06/2020 9:20:48 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa paalle)
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To: Dutch Boy

I was at a gas station and the guy right behind us in his car yelled at me to wear my mask while fueling up. I yelled back at him, “You aren’t wearing one, so why should I?”

He shut up.


76 posted on 10/06/2020 9:22:15 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Pravious
Or, maybe someone was unable to wear a mask due to medical issues and you should mind your own business?

I'm one of those and wear a carbon nasal filter that I get good air thru. They filter particles better than masks, but like masks cannot stop a virus. To me anyway infinitely better than masks with gaps all around, nasal filters are a good tight fit. You just make sure to not be a mouth breather. The only time you might affect somebody is when Karen starts bugging you and you have to open your mouth to tell her to MYOB.

For the ladies though I have found the best way is to pull the filter out of your nose, hanging bits optional for a gag effect from them, and tell them you have it covered.

Wipe em off when you get home and sit them under a UV light ot sunlight when you aren't using them.

77 posted on 10/06/2020 9:22:25 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: lightman

Semper Fi, Jarhead...

If it can’t be natural from age, only two good ways to die, f’n or f’n...


78 posted on 10/06/2020 9:26:02 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: Pravious
The asshole who pushed an 80 year old man to the ground and killed him.

I guess you convicted Zimmerman, the cop in the Mikey Brown case, "Hands up, don't shoot" and all the rest of the accurate news reports.

Take a breath, slow down and think, just a little.

You are the asshole in this conversation, and it gives you bad breath.

79 posted on 10/06/2020 9:27:42 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: USS Alaska

Okay.

I’ll change it to:

“The asshole who allegedly pushed an 80 year old man to the ground and killed him.”

Feel better now?


80 posted on 10/06/2020 9:44:18 AM PDT by Pravious
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