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Is Nancy Pelosi Excommunicated by her abortion stance? Bishop says yes for politicians

Posted on 09/27/2020 3:55:20 PM PDT by topher

Bishop says politicians and others who promote abortion are excommunicated from the Catholic Church.

Article:

Bishop: Pro-abortion Andrew Cuomo excommunicated himself, should not receive Communion

According to this article, Bishop Strickland of Tyler, Texas claims that by rejecting Catholic teaching, one excommunicates themselves from the Catholic faith.

That would mean Nancy Pelosi, Andrew Cuomo, and Joe Biden are excommunicated. In the past, Bishops have declared that supporting abortion excommunicates politicians.

Probably the most famous example is the letter by the late Archbishop of Atlanta John Francis Donoghue.

Here is a link to that famous letter/declaration. There were three bishops who made the declaration. The link:

Worthy to Receive the Lamb: Catholics in Political Life and the Reception of Holy Communion

The date of this publication is August 4, 2004. It was published by three dioceses.


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To: DIRTYSECRET

It’s not about her position as speaker. The Catholic religion has no bearing on our political processes and their ex-communicating her would not change that in the least.

It’s about chastising her spiritually, and the Catholic religion has dropped the ball with that on MANY democrat politicians.

Heck, they even gave Ted Kennedy, the murderer a good Catholic funeral.


21 posted on 09/27/2020 4:32:50 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: topher
It will not bother her constituents in San Francisco.

To such people this story might be interesting in an anthropological way, but not relevant to how the vote.

22 posted on 09/27/2020 4:36:40 PM PDT by Salman (If they win by terrorism, they will rule by terrorism. Nobody ever got mellower by getting power.)
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To: topher

I’m sure it is, but they are still taking the easy way out.

I was in a church once where one of the members was in the sin of adultery and unrepentant.

At the business meeting, they removed her name from the membership rolls. But she anticipated that and asked to be removed before the meeting.

However, during the meeting they still officially announced it so that it was on record that they officially took the action anyway, even though she acted first.

I give them credit for taking that stand instead of the easy way out and saying that she withdrew her membership therefore they felt no further action was necessary.

It was necessary to go on record that the church actually stood by what it claimed to believe.

I believe that the same should apply for Catholicism, or any church for that matter. Do what’s right and Scriptural and don’t breathe a sigh of relief because the issue resolved itself before actually having to man up and do what’s right.


23 posted on 09/27/2020 4:37:48 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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24 posted on 09/27/2020 4:40:41 PM PDT by caww (When a person becomes a Christian the assurance of truth becomes reality.....)
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To: metmom
It is in the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church and the webpage I am citing is from the "www.vatican.va" website...

Either the Pope needs this excerpt of information on abortion from the Catechism be read in all churches, or the USCCB.Org should mandate it...

From the Vatican website (ABORTION as Ex-Communication in the Roman Catholic Church as found in the Catechism)

Abortion

2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.

From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.71

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.72 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.73

2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.74 God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.75

2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"76 "by the very commission of the offense,"77 and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.78 The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

2273 The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation:

25 posted on 09/27/2020 4:42:50 PM PDT by topher
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To: metmom
Pelosi supports 'dismemberment of babies' in the womb......what part of that can anyone

in the Catholic church support by supporting Pelosi's affliation with their church????


26 posted on 09/27/2020 4:49:55 PM PDT by caww (When a person becomes a Christian the assurance of truth becomes reality.....)
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To: Qiviut

I did too.


27 posted on 09/27/2020 4:51:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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28 posted on 09/27/2020 4:53:18 PM PDT by caww (When a person becomes a Christian the assurance of truth becomes reality.....)
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To: metmom
There are two forms of excommunication in the Church: ferendae sententiae and latae sententiae.

The former is conducted by the Church; it's usually declared through the local ordinary (bishop).

The latter is done by the person himself; no declaration by the Church is necessary.

Anyone who procures an abortion for herself or helps a woman procure an abortion automatically incurs excommunication latae sententiae.

29 posted on 09/27/2020 4:56:38 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("The side that has truth gets humor as a bonus.")
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To: topher

Canons 751, 1364, and 1398 come to mind. She’s struck out


30 posted on 09/27/2020 5:01:10 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: topher

“Any politician who says abortion is okay has excommunicated themselves...”

...and in doing so it would ave been better for them that they place the proverbial millstone around their own necks and cast themselves into the sea.


31 posted on 09/27/2020 5:11:08 PM PDT by myerson
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32 posted on 09/27/2020 5:11:45 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: caww

There are some people whom I will not weep for when they are banished to hell.


33 posted on 09/27/2020 5:58:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: 2banana

Surprised she didn’t burst into flames...

I agree, I just gaffawed when I read she was Catholic. But then again, the current leader of the Catholic Church is a Catholic, too...so what is the difference?


34 posted on 09/27/2020 6:03:06 PM PDT by Bodega
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To: metmom
It is in the Catechism... But the Church should re-iterate this stance -- OFTEN.

It is in paragraph 2272

2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"76 "by the very commission of the offense,"77 and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.78 The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

35 posted on 09/27/2020 6:17:43 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication_(Catholic_Church)


36 posted on 09/27/2020 6:25:25 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!)
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To: metmom

Yes.


37 posted on 09/27/2020 7:33:29 PM PDT by caww (When a person becomes a Christian the assurance of truth becomes reality.....)
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