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Is Nancy Pelosi Excommunicated by her abortion stance? Bishop says yes for politicians

Posted on 09/27/2020 3:55:20 PM PDT by topher

Bishop says politicians and others who promote abortion are excommunicated from the Catholic Church.

Article:

Bishop: Pro-abortion Andrew Cuomo excommunicated himself, should not receive Communion

According to this article, Bishop Strickland of Tyler, Texas claims that by rejecting Catholic teaching, one excommunicates themselves from the Catholic faith.

That would mean Nancy Pelosi, Andrew Cuomo, and Joe Biden are excommunicated. In the past, Bishops have declared that supporting abortion excommunicates politicians.

Probably the most famous example is the letter by the late Archbishop of Atlanta John Francis Donoghue.

Here is a link to that famous letter/declaration. There were three bishops who made the declaration. The link:

Worthy to Receive the Lamb: Catholics in Political Life and the Reception of Holy Communion

The date of this publication is August 4, 2004. It was published by three dioceses.


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Any politician who says abortion is okay has excommunicated themselves...
1 posted on 09/27/2020 3:55:20 PM PDT by topher
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Another famous example is that Bishop Tobin of the Diocese of Providence, Rhode Island, sent a private letter to then Congressman Patrick Kennedy informing him that abortion was wrong and that he must repent of that.

Congressman Patrick Kennedy took the letter public and then became an 'ex-congressman' because of the public furor over the congressman's stance.

2 posted on 09/27/2020 3:59:27 PM PDT by topher
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I thought it somewhat ironic to see Pelosi making the sign of the cross while standing in front of RGB’s casket.


3 posted on 09/27/2020 4:02:33 PM PDT by Qiviut ("I have never wished death upon a man, but I have read many obituaries with pleasure" Mark Twain)
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To: Qiviut

Surprised she didn’t burst into flames...


4 posted on 09/27/2020 4:03:18 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: topher

Ooops - make that RBG.


5 posted on 09/27/2020 4:03:29 PM PDT by Qiviut ("I have never wished death upon a man, but I have read many obituaries with pleasure" Mark Twain)
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To: topher
Link to news about ex-congressman Patrick Kennedy and Bishop Tobin:

Bishop Tobin to Congressman Patrick Kennedy: ´What does it mean to be a Catholic?´

The first sentence of the article is important:

our rejection of the Church´s teaching on abortion falls into a different category - it´s a deliberate and obstinate act of the will; a conscious decision that you´ve re-affirmed on many occasions.

6 posted on 09/27/2020 4:04:08 PM PDT by topher
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To: 2banana

A pillar of salt would work for me too.


7 posted on 09/27/2020 4:04:19 PM PDT by Qiviut ("I have never wished death upon a man, but I have read many obituaries with pleasure" Mark Twain)
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To: topher
The first sentence of the article of the conversation of Bishop Tobin to Patrick Kennedy should be 'Your', not 'our':

Your rejection of the Church´s teaching on abortion falls into a different category - it´s a deliberate and obstinate act of the will; a conscious decision that you´ve re-affirmed on many occasions.

8 posted on 09/27/2020 4:06:22 PM PDT by topher
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Didn’t know demons could maintain good standing in the Church. /s


9 posted on 09/27/2020 4:07:28 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: topher

John wrote that some people leaving demonstrates that they never belonged.

But Paul also wrote of those who sneak in to spy out our liberty, who try to draw us to follow them rather than repent. These don’t leave. They fester.

In Revelation we see Christ address such a person as she was teaching deep things of Satan. He had given her time to repent but that time of Revelation that time was by then gone. What would this be except her being turned over to a reprobate mind?

I’m not saying Nancy Pelosi has run out her time to repent — though she does actively support homosexuals in society ... a fruit that can be judged, one that does not come from good trees — because while everyone who has been turned over to a reprobate mind will rabidly supports homosexuality in society the reverse need not follow. Rather, she seems simply unrepentant at this time. She may not doesn’t escape though, even if not reprobate, just as the “children” of the Jezebel in Thyatira did not escape.

She needs to repent. Putting it off isn’t a good idea. Not for her or for anyone.


10 posted on 09/27/2020 4:12:29 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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These people are excommunicated no matter what certain bishops might say. There are some bishops that have come awfully close to excommunicating themselves, too. I don’t know what their standing is within the Church or if they are within the Church at all once they are at least partially apostate due to declaring certain dogmas to be wrong or not applicable to them. What I am sure of is that they may not receive the Body and Blood and sin grievously if they do.


11 posted on 09/27/2020 4:16:13 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe f)
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imho these politicians who claim to be Catholic/Christian and yet openly supports killing the unborn babies, are like people who claim to be vegetarians and yet will chown down on a 16oz ribeye steak in a heartbeat.

They just use religion and christianity for mere social acceptability & politics to appeal to get voters.

12 posted on 09/27/2020 4:16:29 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: topher

Is the Pope Cath......oh never mind.


13 posted on 09/27/2020 4:16:57 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: topher

Nice that she did it to herself, but imagine the powerful message if the Pope came out and announced it.


14 posted on 09/27/2020 4:17:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Qiviut
I thought it somewhat ironic to see Pelosi making the sign of the cross while standing in front of RBG’s casket.

God is merciful, which is why she didn't spontaneously catch on fire or melt immediately.

15 posted on 09/27/2020 4:18:48 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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RBG was Jewish, but a good friend of mine (who actually involved in a Supreme Court decision) explained that for Orthodox Jews, Abortion is a serious sin. In the 'March for Life', I have seen Orthodox Rabbis participate as it an important part of the Jewish faith.

This explained to me by Paul Schenck (now Father Paul Schenck).

He was arrested for offering a Bible to a woman at an abortion clinic. The case went all the way to the US Supreme Court.

Paul Schenck won the decision 8-1. The lone dissenter was Associate Justice Stephen G. Breyer.

Before I post the link to the Oral Arguments, Paul Schenck at one time was lost in Washington, DC.

He looked over into the car next to him to ask for help.

He realized the driver was Associate Justice Stephen G. Breyer. He decided not to ask him for help.

Link to the Oral Arguments for this case at the US Supreme Court:

Case: Paul Schenck v Pro-Choice Network of Western New York

16 posted on 09/27/2020 4:22:32 PM PDT by topher
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Why doesn’t the Catholic religion make it official and do it instead of just safely saying that they did it to themselves.

It makes them look weak and like they are afraid to take a stand.


17 posted on 09/27/2020 4:24:06 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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That would be as bad as taking away Bill Clinton’s law license for 5 years over a blo job. She’ll still be speaker-for now.


18 posted on 09/27/2020 4:27:06 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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About Paul Schenck:

He was raised as an Orthodox Jew.

Then he became an Evangelical Christian.

He converted to the Catholic faith, and then he was allowed to become a Catholic priest even though he was married.

However, I see that he is no longer a Catholic priest (?)

19 posted on 09/27/2020 4:30:29 PM PDT by topher
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To: metmom

I believe it is in the Catechism. But I would have to find it in the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church...


20 posted on 09/27/2020 4:32:23 PM PDT by topher
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