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To: Secret Agent Man

I’ve often wondered about Americans of privilege who adopt from out of country when there are so many American children in need of a good safe home.


12 posted on 09/25/2020 7:11:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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To: newzjunkey

Maybe, she wants to give them a chance at a better life.


17 posted on 09/25/2020 7:15:08 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: newzjunkey

Because adoption is a government libtard torture program in most places in America.


20 posted on 09/25/2020 7:16:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: newzjunkey

Because the system here is broken. Most kids that are eventually placed for adoption are in the foster care system for multiple years and that comes with all kinds of trauma.


24 posted on 09/25/2020 7:18:05 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: newzjunkey

Do you realize how difficult it is to adopt domestically, especially if you don’t want an open adoption?


42 posted on 09/25/2020 7:27:20 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: newzjunkey
The adoption system for many years discouraged adoption of minority kids by white parents.

This was partly so the kids could keep in touch with their culture, partly because social workers placed these kids with affluent white parents when there were friends or family who would be willing to take them in but maybe the home was too small, person was a single mom or just older lady.

Foster care attempts to keep families intact, so often the kids get sent home to a mom who is a druggie, until mom relapses and they are again removed.

Often older kids have horrific acting out against their new parents.

And of course people prefer babies, which are few available because of abortion.

50 posted on 09/25/2020 7:31:13 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: newzjunkey

Many American babies available for adoption are children of drug addicts. Lots of “issues.”


52 posted on 09/25/2020 7:32:56 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: newzjunkey
Because adopting in the US is a long drawn out process that can be undone with a flick of a judge's pen.

Fostering is easy because the CPS makes money from fostering.

Adopting means that they are out of the system and so no more money for your department.

Even adopting older children, many who have severe attachment disorder, is three year process. At any time in this process they can decide to come and pick up the child and plop them back into foster care for any or no reason.

So people adopt from overseas.

They would rather not get attached to a child only to have to wave goodbye five years down the line and then read their obituary.

67 posted on 09/25/2020 7:40:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: newzjunkey

Those children were probably eating dirt for part of their meals. There’s likely no one in Haiti who could have provided for those children. I don’t think God cares where we adopt children from.


78 posted on 09/25/2020 7:47:54 PM PDT by Jessarah
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To: newzjunkey
I’ve often wondered about Americans of privilege who adopt from out of country when there are so many American children in need of a good safe home.

I know someone who has been through the process. From what I've been told, far too many "American children" are too old for adoption and come with all kinds of baggage that makes them difficult to raise.

113 posted on 09/25/2020 8:14:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("ThereÂ’s somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: newzjunkey

That’s an old argument not applicable now. It’s generally used by people who have issues with race and or culture differences when there’s a legal issue involved in overseas adoptions...both here and in the foreign country.


124 posted on 09/25/2020 8:32:19 PM PDT by caww (When a person becomes a Christian the assurance of truth becomes reality.....)
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To: newzjunkey
"I’ve often wondered about Americans of privilege who adopt from out of country when there are so many American children in need of a good safe home."

My daughter has explored adoption idea for her family. For one child it will cost $15,000. I have no idea what it would cost to adopt a Haitian child. I suspect it would be less than $15,000. Then, you have the cost of air travel with Haiti less expensive than countries further away. Finally, whoever made the child trafficking allegations should pay a big price for slander.

130 posted on 09/25/2020 8:36:50 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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BTW.......I worked with a woman who adopted a Chinese baby girl when Chinese woman were killing their female babies. It tool over a year.......But the very day she brought her baby home a neighbor in the other block knocked at her door as he had heard about this adoption. He was Chinese.

After introductions etc. He asked if he might hold the child just for a moment, as she handed the baby to him his eyes welled with tears as he trembled saying ......”Thank you so much for saving one of our nations daughters.”

134 posted on 09/25/2020 8:40:36 PM PDT by caww (When a person becomes a Christian the assurance of truth becomes reality.....)
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To: newzjunkey

I’ve often wondered about Americans of privilege who adopt from out of country when there are so many American children in need of a good safe home.


They are interested in adopting babies, instead of kids that are old enough to have been set in their ways and damaged by the system?


182 posted on 09/25/2020 10:02:16 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: newzjunkey

Uhmm...it is not just Americans of privilege who adopt from out of country - there are many regular middle class people who do the same thing.


203 posted on 09/25/2020 10:50:41 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: newzjunkey

[I’ve often wondered about Americans of privilege who adopt from out of country when there are so many American children in need of a good safe home.]


Their goal is not to replace government facilities that provide care for kids with birth defects. They want a big family with normal children. It’s the standard tribal impulse that has led people to have lots of kids, both biological and by adoption, since time immemorial - an heir and multiple spares to pass on the family name and the memory of that particular family line.

She adopted abroad not to virtue signal, but to avoid the complications of adopting domestically. Non-damaged birth parents can get their kid back. Damaged birth parents (i.e. substance abusers) also have damaged kids (due to birth defects) who, at the extremes, end up massacring other kids (remember the FL situation?). Fact is, until abortion is outlawed and domestic adoptions made irrevocable, adopting here is a fraught process. I know of people who have adopted damaged kids, as well as those who adopted perfectly fine kids, then had their birth parents take them back with the support of the court system. Both went through nightmarish ordeals.

You might also be wondering why Haiti and not Russia, Romania, China, South Korea or places where some semblance of organized government exists. Because liberal do-gooders have been raising hell about transnational adoptions, resulting in most countries banning foreign adoptions except for babies with serious problems such as Down Syndrome, brain damage, spinal damage, etc. Haiti is one of the last foreign countries where you can adopt healthy babies.


219 posted on 09/26/2020 9:01:15 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: newzjunkey
"there are so many American children in need of a good safe home"

I don't know where you got that information, but that isn't true. Several couples at my church adopted children and it was a long and expensive process to adopt an American child. One couple finally gave up and adopted from a foreign country.

224 posted on 09/26/2020 10:34:49 AM PDT by fini
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