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China is killing the dollar: China could dump all US Treasury and agency bonds if relationship with America deteriorates further.
GoldMoney ^ | 09/17/2020 | Alasdair Macleod

Posted on 09/19/2020 5:41:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/19/2020 5:41:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Yet another gold bug publication talking its book.


2 posted on 09/19/2020 5:45:25 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Baloney, juan is higher now than 5 years ago, the bonds they hold a good bonds at higher interest rates, US will buy back all bonds, CCP is talking about 20% of their holds, ain’t squat. Just CCP prop!


3 posted on 09/19/2020 5:46:03 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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RE: Yet another gold bug publication talking its book.

OK, can you tell us if you disagree with this article or not, and if so, why?


4 posted on 09/19/2020 5:46:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Be a damn shame if all those Chinese Generals lost their mansions and luxury cars.


5 posted on 09/19/2020 5:50:26 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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OK, can you tell us if you disagree with this article or not, and if so, why?

They park their money in Treasury and Agency bonds not because they like Americans, but because there's no place else to put it that won't cost them a bundle of money getting in and out.

The Chinese are chasing a chimera. They want an appreciating currency without also running trade deficits. That's the equivalent of trying to create a perpetual motion machine. It's something only people brought up on Marxist cant or an exaggerated belief in their own abilities could believe.

Reserve currency status isn't the reason the US became the world's largest economy. The causation runs in the opposite direction. The US dollar became the world's major reserve currency only almost 50 years after the US became the #1 economy in the world. It took on this burden (which essentially requires the US, previously a trade surplus country, to run trade deficits for as long as its currency is the major reserve currency) to help the Free World's economies to recover in the wake of WWII. The rest of the Free World is no longer on the verge of starvation. It's time someone else took on the costs of being the major reserve currency. The near zero interest rates on offer today are the Federal Reserve's way of saying that it is time for some other currency to start taking up the responsibility for running the large trade deficits that come with major reserve currency status.

The dollar is one of several reserve currencies, forming ~60% of the reserves of the world's national treasuries. The euro is ~20%. The principal reason the euro's only ~20%? EU member countries are responsible for their own bonds. Nobody wants Greek bonds and the potential haircuts in the event of default. There's an excellent Quora response that laid out the reasons why reserve currency status isn't all it's cut out to be:

First off, let’s get rid of one misconception that you seem to share with dozens of other people on Quora. The dollar is not “the world’s reserve currency.” It is “the world’s major reserve currency.” Any currency can be held as a reserve currency. There are no laws about this and it’s up to each country to decide what they want to hold, of course. Nobody declared that each country has to hold the bulk of its foreign exchange reserves in USD, it’s just the result of individual decisions by each country.

As far as we know, the dollar accounts for 63% of reserves, EUR is 20%, and then there are the rest. Take a look at the IMF’s breakdown of reserves by currency at http://data.imf.org/?sk=E6A5F467...

So why is USD the world’s major reserve currency? Why have most countries elected to hold the bulk of their reserves in USD? To fulfill this role, a country has to have:

I think you’ll find that at the moment, there is only the US that fits all three criteria, and I don’t see any other country volunteering to take its place any time soon. What other country’s bond market could take even half that amount? As far as I know, only Japan, and they have shown zero interest – in fact significant negative interest – in having their currency play this role. (Negative interest = they discourage people from doing this.) The Chinese government bond market is also large and growing, but of course China has an estimated $1tn or more in USD reserves – where can it put that money besides USD?

On the contrary, most countries fight to prevent their currency from being held as a major reserve currency, since that causes the currency to appreciate, dampens growth, and causes unemployment. That’s what all this “currency wars” talk is about. Here’s why:

In order to accumulate foreign exchange reserves, central banks buy assets (mostly government bonds) denominated in the currencies of other countries. In this case, we have foreign central banks buying billions and billions of dollars worth of US government securities. This causes the US to run a financial account surplus. (A financial account surplus means foreigners buy more USD-denominated assets than US-based investors buy in foreign assets.)

If the US runs a financial account surplus, by definition it has to run a current account deficit, unless the government intervenes heavily. The current account is mostly made up of trade in goods & services. (That’s because money coming in has to equal money going out.)

So the fact that the USD is the world’s major reserve currency is one of the main reasons why the country has run a current account deficit for most of the last 30 years. (This by the way is known as the Triffin dilemma

— a dilemma identified in the 1960s by the economist Robert Triffin, who realized that any country that dominated world FX reserves would have a consistent current account deficit that would gradually undermine the value of that currency.)

To put it in simpler terms, if the USD weren’t the world’s major reserve currency, probably its value would have fallen, US exports would be more competitive, and more people in the US would have jobs making goods for exports. On the other hand, probably fewer people in China, Germany and Mexico would have jobs making things for export to the US. Do you think that’s a good thing or a bad thing? Probably your view on this depends on whether you work in a factory in the US or China.

While some people have said that the use of the dollar as the world’s major reserve currency is an “exorbitant privilege,” other people argue that it’s actually an “exorbitant burden” for just this reason. See this article by Prof. Michael Pettis, An Exorbitant Burden or this one on his blog, The Titillating and Terrifying Collapse of the Dollar...Again

So we can see that:

Footnote: By the way, let me explain a bit why the euro can’t fulfill this role. The problem with the euro is that there are no eurozone bonds, there are only national bonds (i.e., bonds issued by the individual countries). Now remember, why does a country issue bonds? Because it has a budget deficit. Therefore, the largest national bond markets are going to be those of the countries with the largest government deficits. These are precisely the countries whose bonds you don’t want to buy. So within the eurozone, the biggest bond market is the perennially fiscally challenged Italy (EUR 2.4tn outstanding), followed by France (EUR 2.09tn). By comparison, there’s only EUR 1.3tn in German bonds outstanding, not far above the EUR 1.23tn for much smaller Spain (49mn people vs 81mn. So the problem with the euro is not the lack of EUR-denominated assets, it’s the lack of attractive, trustworthy EUR-denominated assets.

No matter how indebted the US government gets, at the end of the day the US Treasury and the Fed are going to work together to avoid defaulting. Not necessarily so with the euro, as we’ve seen with Greece — the ECB and the other EU countries won’t necessarily bail out Italy if it can’t pay its bills.

The Swiss definitely don't want their franc to be a reserve currency. In the 1970's, they imposed a 41% tax on Swiss franc accounts opened by foreign depositors. Today, they have a central bank rate of -0.75%, meaning countries that want to hold their reserves in Swiss francs must pay the Swiss central bank for the privilege.

6 posted on 09/19/2020 5:57:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Maybe we can buy them back at $.10 on the dollar...


7 posted on 09/19/2020 5:57:49 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“That’s the equivalent of trying to create a perpetual motion machine.”

Like the Fed?


8 posted on 09/19/2020 6:04:15 PM PDT by dljordan
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Selling a Book,
I can’t follow this
Post much less 20 pages
For Fifty bucks.
.
Fug get about it!


9 posted on 09/19/2020 6:05:09 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (TRUMP, the Other guy lives in a Basement!)
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[Like the Fed?]


Way pre-exists the Fed. Inflation has been a fact of life since man invented money. It’s how government pays the bills and stimulates the economy without imposing politically-unpopular new taxes. The Fed did not exist in the 19th century. Inflation did.


10 posted on 09/19/2020 6:09:50 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Excellent analysis.


11 posted on 09/19/2020 6:10:36 PM PDT by datura
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America is the #1 purchaser in the world. We are a country of consumers and we buy a ton of products. The communist Chinese may be evil but they’re not stupid. Kill the dollar and Americans stop consuming. No consuming and Chinese businesses get hit hard. If they wanted to crash our economy, they should have done it during the height of the American COVID shutdown.

For 20 years I’ve been hearing gold bugs promise that metals were about to go through the roof and it still hasn’t happened. But they sure love panic buyers that resemble preppers.


12 posted on 09/19/2020 6:33:08 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (COVID infects the Democrat brain and makes them drunk with power.)
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In terms of capital flows, China is disposing of dollars and buying commodities just at the moment the US’s budget and trade deficits are spiralling out of control.

LOL -- China's debt problem is much larger than ours. Plus this 'plan' will leave China with essentially no export markets due to a surging Yuan and falling dollar. China's productive capacity is far in excess of domestic demand, despite the CCP's endless loans to bankrupt enterprises to maintain employment.

Here's a more likely scenario: the CCP takes a gamble on a short war to justify the internal reforms necessary for its own economy, hoping (at best) for the easy acquisition of Taiwan and at worst a stalemate that allows the CCP to utterly destroy any internal opposition and make the needed chnages to its internal markets.

13 posted on 09/19/2020 6:37:21 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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Trump, if pushed far enough, could use executive authority to render the bonds worthless. If he announced even the possibility of such the bonds would become unsalable as buyers would be concerned they could be stuck holding the bag.

This action, if taken, would render the rest of the outstanding bonds a little bit more trustworthy...this due to the slight lessening of US debt.


14 posted on 09/19/2020 6:40:44 PM PDT by Bobalu ("You can't serve papers on a rat, Baby Sister. You gotta kill him or let him be." --Rooster Cogburn)
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Gold is nothing but a commodity, like oil, wheat, corn, etc.

The US Dollar strengthens during a global recession, just like it did during the last one. Gold bugs need to understand basic economics when it comes to the world's debt-based money supply.

China is a factory nation - nothing more. Its economy will crash and burn if we stop buying their junk. Their only hope would be to increase sales to the other BRIC nations. Russia will have no interest, and India hates them. Brazil is ticked about the Chinese virus.

China is in a world of hurt - not the United States, or the US Dollar.

Stupid article.

15 posted on 09/19/2020 6:50:05 PM PDT by politicket (Don't remove a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. It's the only thing holding the car together!)
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If China did that, China would have no influence over US policy. The US could completely be independent upon China.


16 posted on 09/19/2020 7:33:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is thp at they are both death cults.)
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China will have to sell at an additional discount. It’s bonds are already out there.


17 posted on 09/19/2020 8:43:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A pro China puff piece.

It’s rather simple choice at this time.

Who do you trust.


18 posted on 09/19/2020 9:41:07 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Either that, or Xi will be late for dinner because he's got to finish delivering the news to his paper route on Mars.

19 posted on 09/19/2020 11:31:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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20 posted on 09/19/2020 11:44:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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