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Joe Biden's true lead is smaller than it appears
CNN via MSN ^ | 9/05/20 | Harry Enten

Posted on 09/05/2020 5:38:01 PM PDT by Libloather

Former Vice President Joe Biden continues to hold an advantage over President Donald Trump in the polls. Given that we're past both major party conventions and closing in on Labor Day, the only fair conclusion to reach is that Biden's the favorite.

Yet, it continues to be clear that the national polling will continue to overstate Biden's edge. An examination of the state polls shows a race that, while not a tossup by any means, is closer than the national polls would indicate.

The national polls after the convention tell a pretty clear story. Biden is up by around 8 points. That's what the CNN/SSRS poll shows. That's what the Grinnell College/Selzer and Co. poll has. The average, depending on how you compute it, has basically the same thing.

As I noted last week, elected incumbents rarely gain ground after the conventions. The two biggest gainers in the modern era were Dwight Eisenhower in 1956 and George H.W. Bush in 1992. Both picked up about 4 points, which would only cut Biden's edge by about half.

Biden's true lead (or true margin), however, is closer to 5 points. What do I mean by that?

Remember, the only thing that ultimately matters is winning 270 electoral votes in the Electoral College. To understand how easy a path each candidate has, you have to look at the state level polling.

The polling there is not nearly as universally good for Biden. Yes, some of it was good for Biden. He was up 8 points in a Fox News poll of Wisconsin. But a Quinnipiac University poll in Florida had the spread between Biden and Trump at just 3 points.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Local News
KEYWORDS: biden; democrats; harris; nonexistant; trump
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To: granite

:-)


21 posted on 09/05/2020 6:12:52 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Libloather

Electoral landslide and huge riots. We have been warned.


22 posted on 09/05/2020 6:13:00 PM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: Libloather

He’s not leading. Don’t believe a word of this.

L


23 posted on 09/05/2020 6:13:31 PM PDT by Lurker (No Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: CatOwner

Which poll was that? That should have equated to a double-digit lead for Biden.

LOL! I’m pulling your leg, CatOwner.

Say Hi to your cats for me.


24 posted on 09/05/2020 6:14:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: mbrfl
Biden and Ho apologizing for no action by them before and after with their riots!


25 posted on 09/05/2020 6:17:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (11/3/2020! VOTE FOR JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!!!)
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To: Libloather

Was listening to an interview of a guy in Market Research - if they didn’t like an answer, they just didn’t report it.

Same with these phoney polls - if the pollsters doesn’t like the answer, they can just throw it away.


26 posted on 09/05/2020 6:19:44 PM PDT by EC Washington
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To: Grampa Dave

Yeah! like zero. Whoever says Biden has a lead on President Trump. That is his ass talking. His head knows better or different.


27 posted on 09/05/2020 6:22:39 PM PDT by sport
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To: elteemike

Here’s another anecdotal story. I was down in L.A. for doctors appointmentand had two people give me a thumbs up for my Trump sticker on my back window. Liberals actually put their stickers on their bumper. Stoopid! AND a woman in the parking lot came up to me and liked the sticker as well. I get way more compliments than not. Maybe I’m too scary for liberals to give me chit.


28 posted on 09/05/2020 6:23:26 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Libloather

Joe Biden’s lead is negative.


29 posted on 09/05/2020 6:31:25 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: semimojo

“If true, Trump’s toast.”

When have the media, their mediot minions and paid trolls on Free Republic ever been honest?


30 posted on 09/05/2020 6:32:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (11/3/2020! VOTE FOR JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!!!)
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To: All

‘while not a tossup by any means, is closer than the national polls would indicate.‘

They toss in that line, which contradicts the headline.


31 posted on 09/05/2020 6:32:09 PM PDT by iamgalt
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To: Libloather

It comes down to Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida and Wisconsin.

I can’t say I’m super positive the PResident wins all 4 this time around.


32 posted on 09/05/2020 6:33:44 PM PDT by proud_dad_of_two (Formerly MikefromOhio (I couldn't remember my password and lost the email account too!))
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To: Libloather

Harry Joe Enten is an American journalist best known for his role as a senior political writer and analyst for the website FiveThirtyEight and senior writer and analyst for CNN Politics.


33 posted on 09/05/2020 6:36:58 PM PDT by McGruff (Polls are for dancing)
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To: bray

Has the Repub ever had a lead in the polls in the last 50 yrs?

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Oh my. A skeptic?
You’re not supposed to notice, citizen.


34 posted on 09/05/2020 6:51:45 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: Libloather

When they call NJ for Trump at 8 O’clock, it’s time to go to bed.


35 posted on 09/05/2020 6:53:46 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: bray

Thank you. I have been saying that forever. I have NEVER seen a repub in the lead in ANY race against the dem. It is ALWAYS the dem ahead by a lot.


36 posted on 09/05/2020 6:56:02 PM PDT by Singermom
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To: semimojo

They are talking about polls like Quinnipiac which has never been right, ever, and has always leaned, even titled, left.


37 posted on 09/05/2020 7:01:13 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Libloather
Besides the skewed polls, people are not going to admit to a stranger on the phone that they are Trump fans.
I always hang up.
For all the Media and Libs crying about "Militia", "White Supremacists" and "Right Wing Domestic Terrorism", we all know which end of the political spectrum the real violence is coming from.

38 posted on 09/05/2020 7:07:56 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Libloather

He has no lead.


39 posted on 09/05/2020 7:10:14 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Libloather

40 posted on 09/05/2020 7:10:21 PM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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