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Mandatory hair testing is one step closer, feds confirm
CDL Life ^ | 2 Seot 2020 | Ashley

Posted on 09/03/2020 3:22:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The Drug Testing Advisory Board (DTAB) within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has submitted a hair testing proposal to the Federal Register for publication, the agency confirmed at a September 1 meeting.

Hair testing is believed to have a much longer detection period — up to 90 days for certain narcotics, versus 2 to 3 days for urine tests — and hair tests are cheaper to administer.

OOIDA ( Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association) also cites inconsistencies in the results for hair testing based on race: “According to the American Civil Liberties Union, dark hair is more likely to test positive for a drug, and, additionally, African-Americans are more likely to test positive than Caucasians.”

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KEYWORDS: drugtest; ooida; truckers; trucking
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“and, additionally, African-Americans are more likely to test positive than Caucasians.””

Hmmm, I wonder why?


21 posted on 09/03/2020 4:17:44 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Silentgypsy

Do not know what became of that defendant. If I remember correctly (and this was 20 or so years ago) the court denied its request for a hair sample.


22 posted on 09/03/2020 4:18:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

THX-1138 is our future.

The Tesla thread was yesterday.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3880338/posts


23 posted on 09/03/2020 4:19:54 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: AF_Blue

Great, just great.


24 posted on 09/03/2020 4:25:02 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: RedStateRocker
The only person who should EVER be able to ask you to take any test of this sort should be your doctor.

Not particularly safety minded are you? Until we have solid self-driving trucks, there's no reason not to test the drivers.

25 posted on 09/03/2020 4:26:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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To: RedStateRocker

“Damned drug warriors. I see nothing in my copy of the Constitution that gives any government (or other) entity any say over what goes into my body.”
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True dat. It’s also true that there’s nothing in the Constitution requiring them to hire those who refuse.


26 posted on 09/03/2020 4:27:47 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Yeah, I’ve worked with it also. The principal scientist was using poly tubing for venting a 1 liter vessel that was 650psi. He was using poly tubing on several systems for the inlet as well, but they were 100 psi or less, but still...


27 posted on 09/03/2020 4:53:54 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
The Drug Testing Advisory Board (DTAB) within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has submitted a hair testing proposal to the Federal Register for publication, the agency confirmed at a September 1 meeting.

If Joe Biden sniffs the hair, does it render the hair sample as contaminated? 😁🤗

28 posted on 09/03/2020 5:03:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Pubes? Best body wax, eh?


29 posted on 09/03/2020 5:08:45 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: jurroppi1

Among the many modern marvels that I had at work, my favorite was the laser hydrogen detection system.

A laser with a series of mirrors and a sensor would detect a frequency shift from hydrogen floating in the lab air.

And they let me play with it!


30 posted on 09/03/2020 5:32:38 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Will the people taking the hair sample have completed 1500 hours of training in a cosmetology school and be licensed?


31 posted on 09/03/2020 5:41:14 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: newzjunkey

“there’s no reason not to test the drivers.”

Do we also test them for residual alcohol? I’ve had some nasty hangovers in my life ... while a hangover wouldn’t necessarily impair one’s driving, the fatigue caused by a hangover could be a problem for truck drivers if they aren’t well rested.

What about cough medicine? Test for that too?

How do we catch people that huff model glue?

What about people that might OD energy drinks while driving? Yeah, its rare, but it can happen and it seems like everyone is so concerned about the planet being 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% safe.

I’m sorry, but all of this drug testing is frigging ridiculous.

I am 100% for any kind of punishment when a vehicle or heavy equipment operator is found to be under the influence of a drug. Using these tests as a screen for employment is crazy though. It’s a complete waste of money. Managers could be trained to spot people inebriated on the job for a hell of a lot less money than whats blown on drug tests. If a person is an addict and they’re terrible at their job, they get fired.

For the record, I tend to not use anything. I rarely drink these days. I just find drug testing to be a complete waste of time for people subjected to that crap.

(I’m not attacking you to be clear ... just offering up a different opinion :-) ).


32 posted on 09/03/2020 5:54:30 PM PDT by edh
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To: dragnet2; All
When will teachers face random drug tests?

I know a number of teachers at private high schools and they have been having random hair tests for at least five years. And the kids get tested, too.


33 posted on 09/03/2020 6:26:15 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC)
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To: Starcitizen

You don’t want to work for those companies anyway.

Look for a local mom n pop company that gets you home every night to sleep in your own bed and crap in your own toilet.

It beats walking 200 yards through the rain at a truck stop (after being woken up by the reefer next to you kicking on and off all night, or worse, a livestock trailer full of stomping, mooing cows,) to share a restroom with 100 other guys, and when you walk in, there’s a Somalian dude washing his junk in the restroom sink with no humility or regard for anyone else.

And the next day, you get to drive 450 miles to some damn place outside Topeka you’ve never seen before, miss the only turn to get into their lot, find your way 20 miles around to get back there, and then get bitched out by your dispatcher because you were ten minutes late for your appointment. Then you may be able to spend the night in their parking lot with only a porta-john for facilities and no place to buy even a bag of peanuts.

Home every night is where it’s at. Ignore the “experience required” claims in the ads. Local companies need drivers. If you look upstanding, intelligent, and like you have your sheet together you’re already halfway hired. Pass their driving test on interview day and you’ll have a job.


34 posted on 09/03/2020 7:00:48 PM PDT by NorthWoody (Half of all people are below average, and half of those are in the bottom 25%.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Dopers demand their right to violate the rights of others.


35 posted on 09/03/2020 7:49:11 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Either everyone is tested, or no one is tested.


36 posted on 09/03/2020 7:56:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
“According to the American Civil Liberties Union, dark hair is more likely to test positive for a drug, and, additionally, African-Americans are more likely to test positive than Caucasians.”

Ummmm - how many dark-haired heads compared to fair-haired heads are there in the world?

37 posted on 09/04/2020 4:08:59 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Mandatory testing for blow outs in closed salons will be next.


38 posted on 09/04/2020 4:10:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wron)
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To: NorthWoody

Rather work in the oil path instead. Lots of Fracking going near Greeley, Colorado anyways.


39 posted on 09/04/2020 4:43:54 AM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: trebb

” how many dark-haired heads compared to fair-haired heads are there in the world?”

What a fun question!

A quick search ...
What are the hair color percentages of the world?
Black/dark brown hair makes up 75-84% of the world’s population. 11% of the population is naturally brunette, 3% has blonde hair, and 2% has natural red hair.

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Methinks the bazillion Asians +Africaians are dominating?


40 posted on 09/04/2020 7:31:24 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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