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what is best source for Wuhan Whoopsie disease caused by the viruse formerly known as SARS-CoV19?
Covid-q ^ | Aug 1, 2020 | Me

Posted on 08/02/2020 11:25:35 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad

So far this seems to be the best source by far.

Who owns it? Don't know Are they reliable? Seem to be

And who has rebutted the...

"Three big studies dim hopes that hydroxychloroquine can treat or prevent COVID-19 By Kai KupferschmidtJun. 9, 2020 , 5:15 PM"

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/three-big-studies-dim-hopes-hydroxychloroquine-can-treat-or-prevent-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR2DXJ7NGx-JgVEloXg67Q3p4_Fhlq8jpSxW_UUg5YJ8vIcPAg036pnG0Wg


TOPICS: Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavanity; covid; covid19; sars; vanity; viruse
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1 posted on 08/02/2020 11:25:35 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Asking about Wuhanic Plague, not be confused with Bubonic Plague, Not to be confused with the diseased Hague, or any Chinese guy named Craig.


2 posted on 08/02/2020 11:27:16 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/three-big-studies-dim-hopes-hydroxychloroquine-can-treat-or-prevent-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR2DXJ7NGx-JgVEloXg67Q3p4_Fhlq8jpSxW_UUg5YJ8vIcPAg036pnG0Wg


3 posted on 08/02/2020 11:28:21 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Pikachu_Dad

From what I have read and heard, the recent studies of HCQ didn’t use the Zinc or the Antibiotic with the HCQ like the successful Doctors were using when they SAVED their Patients Lives!

In other words the Studies were really Propaganda!!


4 posted on 08/02/2020 11:29:18 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Pikachu_Dad

They lead with their chin, but don’t tell the truth.

This paper was withdrawn because it was not true.

The Guardian (of all people) investigated the small company behind the false claims.

The perp:
“The lead author, Prof Mandeep Mehra, from the Brigham and Women’s hospital in Boston, Massachusetts decided to ask the Lancet for the retraction because he could no longer vouch for the data’s accuracy.”

“On 4 June, after critics challenged the data, The Lancet suddenly retracted a paper that had suggested the drug increased the death rate in COVID-19 patients, a finding that had stopped many clinical trials in their tracks. “

Guardian article 1

Covid-19: Lancet retracts paper that halted hydroxychloroquine trials
This article is more than 1 month old
Retraction made after Guardian investigation found inconsistencies in data”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/04/covid-19-lancet-retracts-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials


5 posted on 08/02/2020 11:29:57 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: eyeamok

Yes, but FACTS.


6 posted on 08/02/2020 11:30:30 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: eyeamok

Yes, but FACTS.


7 posted on 08/02/2020 11:30:30 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; All

Love it how are overlords are picketing L4 labs and asking for “weapons of mass destruction” to be eliminated. Where’s Jorge Bush? Where’s Colinoscopy Powell? Where’s Hans Blix? when you need them.

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?


8 posted on 08/02/2020 11:32:57 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

All of the death rates for SARS, bubonic plague, heart attacks, motorcycle fatalities, and falling out of an airplane without a parachute are now being incorporated into the death rate for the ChiCom virus.


9 posted on 08/02/2020 11:33:35 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Menehune56

Second article by the Guardian.

“Surgisphere: governments and WHO changed Covid-19 policy based on suspect data from tiny US company

Surgisphere, whose employees appear to include a sci-fi writer and adult content model, provided database behind Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine hydroxychloroquine studies”

...

“While Surgisphere claims to run one of the largest and fastest hospital databases in the world, it has almost no online presence. Its Twitter handle has fewer than 170 followers, with no posts between October 2017 and March 2020.”
...

The perps
“On Wednesday, the NEJM and the Lancet published an expression of concern about the hydroxychloroquine study, which listed respected cardiologist Mandeep Mehra as the lead author and Desai as co-author.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine


10 posted on 08/02/2020 11:37:48 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: eyeamok

If they didn’t use the 3-drug cocktail (HCQ + Z-Pac + Zinc sulphate), the results are not valid!

If they only used late stage patients (those in ICU and/or intubated on a respirator), the results are not valid!

Fauxci claims to be a scientist, but he discounts any positive results...and focusses only on trials that use only HCQ on the wrong patient population...

I assume he is a good scientist, therefore...

His behavior and pronouncements about HCQ are certainly not accounting for all the data (scientific), at best he is unethical, and I would add his comments may be bordering on criminal as people are dying in this process...


11 posted on 08/02/2020 11:38:51 AM PDT by MCEscherHammer
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To: Menehune56

1. Who is Eric Topol?
“It just seems like we are ignoring signal after signal,” says Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Translational Science Institute. U.S. President Donald Trump’s promotion of it led to a scientific “obsession” with hydroxychloroquine despite thin evidence for its promise, he says. “We’d be better off shifting our attention to drugs that might actually work.” “


12 posted on 08/02/2020 11:40:21 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Menehune56

2. Who is Peter Kremsner?

“Peter Kremsner of the University of Tübingen agrees hydroxychloroquine “certainly isn’t a wonder drug.” The new results left him “wrestling” with the question of whether to proceed with two hydroxychloroquine trials, one in hospitals and the other in patients with milder illness at home.”


13 posted on 08/02/2020 11:41:05 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Menehune56
1 Report 1 (Recovery)

"On 5 June, researchers in the United Kingdom announced the results from the largest trial yet, Recovery, in a press release.

In a group of 1542 hospitalized patients treated with hydroxychloroquine, 25.7% had died after 28 days, compared with 23.5% in a group of 3132 patients who had only received standard care.

“These data convincingly rule out any meaningful mortality benefit,” wrote the investigators, who ended the study early and promised to publish the full results as soon as possible."

UK Recovery

14 posted on 08/02/2020 11:44:57 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Where did the “bat” story BS go ?


15 posted on 08/02/2020 11:45:53 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: Pikachu_Dad

https://c19study.com/


16 posted on 08/02/2020 11:46:34 AM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Since China took and weaponized SARS in their bioweapons lab in Wuhan, likely they also weaponized some strain of plague as we have now had reports of “plague-like” breakout deaths in Northwest China. The Uigar population for example.

We absolutely cannot let this also get vectored in, or has it already via those seed packets no one ordered. What is it, like fireworks-—buy one get one free as some Deep State entity is typing the keys?


17 posted on 08/02/2020 11:46:54 AM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: Menehune56
Report 2: David Boulwate University of Minnesota

"Another hope for hydroxychloroquine, that it might prevent people exposed to the virus from getting sick, also faded last week when David Boulware of the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, and colleagues published the results of the largest study to date of this strategy, called postexposure prophylaxis (PEP).

The researchers sent either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo by mail to 821 people who had been in close contact with a COVID-19 patient for more than 10 minutes without proper protection.

They reported in The New England Journal of Medicine that 12% of the people who took the drug went on to develop COVID-19 symptoms, versus 14% in a placebo group, a difference that was not statistically significant.

Minnesota Boulware

18 posted on 08/02/2020 11:48:42 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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Report 3: Oriol Mitjà Spain

"A second large PEP trial has come up empty as well, its leader tells Science.

Carried out in Barcelona, Spain, that study randomized more than 2300 people exposed to the virus to either hydroxychloroquine or the usual care.

There was no significant difference between the number of people in each group who developed COVID-19, says Oriol Mitjà of the Germans Trias i Pujol University Hospital. Mitjà says he has submitted the results for publication."

Barcelona Spain Mitjà

19 posted on 08/02/2020 11:51:33 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: KEVLAR

Thank you for converting that to a link.

So who owns that site.

They appear to be very credible.


20 posted on 08/02/2020 11:52:41 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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