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Could America split up?
The Week ^ | 7/31/2020 | Damon Linker

Posted on 08/02/2020 6:26:09 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

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To: glennaro

>>> ...at which time America will be “reunited” under the Democrat/Left’s vision of a socialist utopia.

Except the unification won’t last long.

The America/American-hating Democrat/Left Party inevitably will overreach once they have the power, it is in their genes, and American patriots won’t submit so easily...


41 posted on 08/02/2020 7:54:16 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You left out the most recent incendiary rhetorical bombs throwing example of one Buraq O’Bama.


42 posted on 08/02/2020 7:58:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

I suppose it depends on the meaning of “everywhere”.

It’s widespread across the country but not everyone I meet or every situation I’m in is angry.

There are pockets of it spread across the land, like a cancer.


43 posted on 08/02/2020 7:58:55 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

All it would take is the power going out for a few days.

People will start dropping like flies if the cameras didn’t work.


44 posted on 08/02/2020 8:01:44 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Sir Napsalot

The liberals do not want to split up the US.

Who would they then steal from?

Themselves?

They are not going to go for any dividing up of this country.

They will not allow it.


45 posted on 08/02/2020 8:05:46 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“THAT is why both sides need to be warned by someone to whom they will listen to deescalate this as soon as possible or all hell is going to break loose and NO ONE is going to win.”

Who exactly is that someone?

When one side in a conflict is easily beating the crap out of the other side that they despise, as the left has been doing with us, such a warning will fall on deaf ears. In fact if that person happens to be a leftist with some sense, he will immediately be labeled a traitor and be “canceled”.

There are only two possible outcomes from the mess we’re in. Either total subjugation of the right by the left, or the right finally says enough is enough and we start fighting back BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY.

As long as we keep hoping that some undefined person will magically appear to save our bacon, our goose is cooked.


46 posted on 08/02/2020 8:13:22 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Agreed, alas you are correct.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

John Adams (a Founding Father of our Republic and second president of USA)


47 posted on 08/02/2020 8:13:50 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, theyÂ’re excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The American marxists will follow the Chinese Communist Party model when they take “permanent” power. They will initially allow productive conservative to labor and produce ( with much less renumeration) under strict political control because they will need the food, goods and wealth. Prison and detention camps will be used only for the most troublesome at least initially. The American descent will be cruel and disasterous


48 posted on 08/02/2020 8:19:58 AM PDT by allendale
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To: All

To All,

Thanks for the thoughtful posts on this thread.


49 posted on 08/02/2020 8:25:05 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

“In years to come, how do we negotiate to break off these cities, county-by-county? All troops will come home? Social Security/Medicare will be re-formed? The remaining US will take our portion of the gold, reassign debt according to residents to be paid off, retain sovereigns’ debt except China, and go Gold Standard again? These debts, fiat money, and fake wars have bound us together unnaturally.”

Those are all valid questions, but many other countries have faced them and dealt with them. The splitting up of the Soviet Union being the most recent one. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia also come to mind.

My point being that there comes a time when the “marriage” is so dysfunctional, so untenable for one side that the will arises to dissolve it. And when the will is strong enough there is a way.

We’re not quite at that point yet, but getting there.


50 posted on 08/02/2020 8:30:02 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Damon needs Prozac.


51 posted on 08/02/2020 8:42:50 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Sir Napsalot

America will split. I’ve been saying that for 20 years.


52 posted on 08/02/2020 8:50:28 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Brilliant

The obsessive navel gazing over our differences in race, gender, culture, or whatever else can be agitated into a controversy has been very harmful to our country. And it’s only going to get worse.
Then, there are the subversive opportunist out there who will take advantage of it, which I think Obama was one of them, but there are so many more, and even some in congress. Joe McCarthy was every bit right about communist.


53 posted on 08/02/2020 9:02:11 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Brilliant

The obsessive navel gazing over our differences in race, gender, culture, or whatever else can be agitated into a controversy has been very harmful to our country. And it’s only going to get worse.
Then, there are the subversive opportunist out there who will take advantage of it, which I think Obama was one of them, but there are so many more, and even some in congress. Joe McCarthy was every bit right about communist.


54 posted on 08/02/2020 9:02:32 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Sir Napsalot

330 million hugely diverse individuals cannot be governed as one nation.

Time for a divorce, and the peaceful division of communal property.


55 posted on 08/02/2020 9:10:25 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Sir Napsalot

He doesn’t love this country, he sides with the communist revolutionaries and perhaps wants to split this nation.

Split nothing! Tell him to get the hell out


56 posted on 08/02/2020 9:15:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Political reeducation and gulags was always their goal for the opposition party


57 posted on 08/02/2020 9:25:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Sir Napsalot
In my opinion, arguments to "split up" the United States are really attempts by foreign interests to gain control of the natural resources on the giant land mass of North America.

What sets us apart from the rest of the world is that only three countries reside on North America, as opposed to Europe, Africa, and Asia. "Balkanization" is what keeps the other continents in ongoing turmoil. Having one nation control access to all the natural resources of a continent makes that country very powerful relative to all the other nations of the world.

In my opinion, this is why the rest of the world targets the United States with "Paris Accords" and the like. They are trying to shame the United States into not using our own resources for our own behalf. It is a globalist attempt to atrophy the United States and strangle us to the point where we can no longer defend ourselves, and then begin the slide into accepting outside terms of existence.

The thing about demographics is that they always change in the long run. We may be seeing an incursion from less educated and less skilled countries now, but in a few generations those people will die off and their children will be educated and skilled. The same is true for our indigenous youth who are being indoctrinated into socialism. They, too, will die off and their progeny will think differently.

The trick is to not make rash, irreversible decisions like "splitting up" the country now over short-term pressures by outside agents with their own interests in mind. The preamble to the Constitution makes it clear that the purpose of the Constitution is to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity." Splitting up the country undermines the security of our Posterity, and would be a very bad idea.

-PJ

58 posted on 08/02/2020 9:39:40 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: zeestephen

We get to stay and they get to leave the country.
Sounds like a reasonable split.


59 posted on 08/02/2020 9:49:09 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: aquila48
Those are all valid questions, but many other countries have faced them and dealt with them. The splitting up of the Soviet Union being the most recent one. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia also come to mind.

True, but the difference there is they were split culturally along geographical boundaries. How do you do that in these US? Even the MOST Dem States, are mostly blue except for a couple cities. Remember the "Clinton Archipelago" map?

If we cut CA off, 90% of the landmass would secede and return to these US as a new State of Jefferson. Illinois? Land of Obama? That State is entirely blue except for the dark red Chicago, and maybe a bit next to St Louis. The rest of the State is pretty solidly Repub.

And even within the cities, there's generally a sizeable Republican presence, they're just too outnumbered. Ignoring how to split FedGov assets/debts, Theere's just no physical way to separate into homogeneous areas.
60 posted on 08/02/2020 9:59:45 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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