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A city of masks: When the flu tore through San Francisco
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9-11-2015 | Gary Kamiya

Posted on 07/24/2020 9:41:05 AM PDT by DEPcom

For six weeks during the fall of 1918 and winter of 1919, San Francisco was a masked city. Everyone who lived in or visited town was required to cover his or her mouth and nose in public.

Those who did not were reprimanded, fined or arrested. The streets of the city looked like they were full of bank robbers, surgeons, attendees at a Venetian ball or Tokyo dwellers with colds.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education
KEYWORDS: covid19; facemasks; sanfrancisco; spanishflu
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History repeating: They even had an "Anti-Mask League". Instead of a Flubro (note not a flu bro here) maybe they should name that thread: Anti-Mask League (less insulting). This is a good read.

Published in Sept 11, 2015 before Covid-19 so no modern political bias.

1 posted on 07/24/2020 9:41:05 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom

I have te o questions for you. One, what percentage of Americans died from Spanish Flu? Two, how long were masks required in San Francisco during that outbreak.

The answer to those two questions reveals the insanity of current “public health” mandates.


2 posted on 07/24/2020 9:54:22 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Two questions. Sorry for the typo.


3 posted on 07/24/2020 9:54:45 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Two questions. Sorry for the typo.


Could you state that in the form of a question, and then add a question. :)


4 posted on 07/24/2020 10:02:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: DEPcom

People do not realize that a big part of the Chinese Exclusion Acts was fear of disease, carried by the poorest of Chinese immigrants.

Modern leftists have bashed the British in Hong Kong for having areas, particularly in the “Peak” residential area of Hong Kong, that banned Chinese from the area. The reason? Throughout the late 18th century through the 1920’s, Hong Kong regularly suffered cholera and typhus epidemics, brought by the many dirt-poor immigrants fleeing war and chaos in China.


5 posted on 07/24/2020 10:03:21 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: cuban leaf

No. I already asked them but butchered it up!


6 posted on 07/24/2020 10:03:47 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I guess you already know since you ask. Do you have that number and a reference?

Maybe I guess wrong.


7 posted on 07/24/2020 10:06:26 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom

SF math:

https://sf.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/Stay6ftApart-MultiLang-Poster-8.5x11-032620.pdf


8 posted on 07/24/2020 10:09:14 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The answer to #1 is 675k dead out of 103MM, so approximately 0.5% of the population of the USA died of the Spanish Flu.


9 posted on 07/24/2020 10:12:29 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: PGR88

Thanks I never heard of the Chinese Exclusion Acts. Just did some reading, it is interesting.

When I lived in Washington State, I learned Chinese Immigrants settle in Washington before Washington was a state. I was never taught that in School. I did take American History but that was not included.


10 posted on 07/24/2020 10:16:20 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The Spanish flu had two outbreaks. The initial one and then a second outbreak that was a result of a parade in Philly to promote givernment binds fir WW1. The second outbreak was much worse than the first.

Authorities did not want the parade to happen, but they had it anyway.

Not so coincidently it is surmised that the Spanish flu also originated in China.

Who knows how long people wore masks.


11 posted on 07/24/2020 10:20:16 AM PDT by madison10
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To: SoCal Pubbie

To put your question #1 in perspective, the Spanish Flu killed roughly 200k in the USA in the first year. We are halfway through the first year of COVID-19, at 150k deaths in the USA. If we have the same number of deaths in the USA for the second half of the year, for a total of 300k in 2020, then COVID-19 will have proven nearly as deadly as the Spanish Flu.

The population of the USA in 1918 was 103MM. The population in 2020 is 330MM. The Spanish Flu killed 0.19% of Americans the first year. If current numbers continue, COVID-19 will kill 0.09% of Americans during its first year, making COVID-19 approximately half as deadly as the Spanish Flu, and making it five times deadlier than seasonal flu (0.018% for last flu season.)

The virus is not a joke.


12 posted on 07/24/2020 10:21:28 AM PDT by dinodino
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I was thinking it was a higher percentage, but after re-reading your response it is 0.5%. I think the death rate was up around 2%.


13 posted on 07/24/2020 10:22:50 AM PDT by DEPcom
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The estimates vary, but even a low number like 250,000 would mean we’d need about 750,000 dead from Covid-19 to reach that plateau.

The requirement to wear a mask in SF back then, under two different edits, was a grand total of 42 days. FORTY TWO DAYS! We are likely to be forced to wear the pie hole patch for a year or more.

We have become a nation of terrified Karens and Chads.


14 posted on 07/24/2020 10:23:02 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dinodino
The virus is not a joke.

No but the difference was that the Spanish flu struck the young while COVID-19 is deadly for the elderly and if you're under 50, you're not at risk unless you have an underlying condition

15 posted on 07/24/2020 10:26:48 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: madison10
There were actually four different waves. The suggestion that the second one was a result of that parade in Philadelphia is preposterous. The second wave was seeded in New England by troops returning from Europe.
16 posted on 07/24/2020 10:27:11 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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“COVID-19 will have proven nearly as deadly as the Spanish Flu.”

You are correct, if people do not treat the virus serious it could be more deadlier then the Spanish Flu.

Butt...

I think we have to wait on that statement to see how things go. Our Medical system is more advance, saving more lives.

Plus we might have either a vaccine or herd immunity soon (another coronavirus creating antibodies and T-Cells, this is still being research).

Hoping for the positive.


17 posted on 07/24/2020 10:27:40 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I just gave you the numbers, SoCal Pubbie. For 1918, the total deaths were approximately 200k. By the time the pandemic ended (in 1920, I believe), deaths were 675k in the USA.

Not sure how bad a virus needs to be before you think it’s a problem!


18 posted on 07/24/2020 10:27:45 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: DEPcom

I don’t believe there will be either herd immunity or a vaccine. I think that’s just wishful thinking on the part of our “leaders.”


19 posted on 07/24/2020 10:28:25 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: madison10

madison10 wrote: “The Spanish flu had two outbreaks. The initial one and then a second outbreak that was a result of a parade in Philly to promote givernment bonds for WW1. The second outbreak was much worse than the first.
Authorities did not want the parade to happen, but they had it anyway.”

Nancy Pelosi committed a similar act when she actively encouraged people to go to China Town for dinner. Then, of course, there were the ‘peaceful protests’ we’re now experiencing.

madison10 wrote: “Not so coincidently it is surmised that the Spanish flu also originated in China.”

Others speculate that it started in Kansas. It certainly didn’t originate in Spain.

“Who knows how long people wore masks.”

The article says six weeks.

FWIW, my father told me his mother (whom I never met) died of the ‘Spanish Flu’. She passed in the last outbreak in very early 1920. She was only 30. The Spanish Flu was much harder on the young than the CV.


20 posted on 07/24/2020 10:29:03 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A Man Hears What He Wants to Hear and Disregards the Rest)
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