Posted on 07/20/2020 3:29:57 PM PDT by DouglasKC
Those who believe that George Floyd was "killed" by the cops need to understand something.
I found this little tidbit while looking up some COVID stats:
This Article explains how a technique called "proning" is helping COVID patients with their breathing problems.
What it is? It's simply putting a person on their stomach and turning their head to the side. In this way it allows them to breathe easier.
From the article:
Why does proning work? Flipping a patient on their stomach helps respiration because “oxygenation (getting more oxygen into the blood) is easier in the prone position," says Dr. Stewart. It's a function of anatomy, as the human body has more lung tissue in the back of the body than in the front. The coronavirus causes abnormal fluids and secretions to pool toward the back, where there's more lung tissue, and leads to greater interference with lung function. “When a patient is in the prone position, gravity helps the secretions move downward, so more of the ‘good’ lung is on top and therefore less affected,” Harry Peled, MD, a medical director in critical care at St. Jude Medical Center in Fullerton, California, tells Health.
Now ask yourself...what position was George Floyd in when he died? They had him on his stomach with his head turned and were keeping him there by holding him down. In other words, they were doing EXACTLY what they should have been doing when someone is claiming that they are having trouble breathing.
Yet another reason that I'm sure defense lawyers are going to point out. They took steps to SAVE his life by having him on his stomach. Not take it.
and what exactly should they have done?
I think the cop should have been thrown off the force after first dozen complaints.
I don’t care what the article says, it is a fact that the breathing of a person , over weight with his hands cuffed behind his back, is impaired. I learned this in a grand jury.
He was having trouble breathing and stated that even BEFORE he was on the ground. Is the article wrong about proning helping people who are having trouble breathing?
I have yet to hear a single police officer - current or former, including training instructors - who agrees with your assessment. I've had discussions about this with probably 15 or so at this point. Two of them are/were instructors who trained other officers in how to gain control over uncooperative suspects and how to safely restrain them. The instructors took the whole issue incredibly personally, since they taught officers exactly the opposite and were horrified watching this video. I haven't seen a single verified police officer in any LEO forum defend this. It's always a civilian defending it.
CPR would have been a good start. Not standing there with their hands in their pockets not giving a crap is the important part. When the crowd is yelling “he needs help” and the guys who are his custodians (custody is a 2 way relationship) do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING while he dies those people are at fault. Also scum.
The ambulance had been called. The only thing he MIGHT have done is administer cpr. But I'm not sure what the policy was on that with that pd.
I learned this from several medical journals.
And why didn’t they give CPR. Screw policy. It’s called being a responsible human. When you have someone in custody you are their custodian, your JOB is to keep them healthy as much as you can. THEY FAILED.
There is no circumstance where breathing will be improved by laying face-down in the street with your hands cuffed behind your back and a 190 lbs man’s knee in the back of your neck. None. Zero. Does not exist. Does not even make the slightest bit of sense whatsoever to suggest it. Officer Chauvin’s attorneys will never try to claim he had recognized Floyd’s difficulty breathing and thought this was the best way to help him breathe better.
If they did, the jury would burst into laughter before asking the judge if they can just take a vote right then and there.
I guess all these medical people saving lives by doing exactly that are wrong then. Thanks.
Find me a single nurse or doctor on the face of planet Earth who says that cuffing a man’s hands behind his back, placing him face-down on the street, and kneeling on the back of his neck will help him breathe more easily.
Just one.
What is hooping?
Why are you supporting these Democrat city dirty cops? They’d be the first ones to stand down and allow antifa to assault conservatives. They made their bed. Now they’ll rightfully hang for assaulting a handcuffed and unconscious prisoner who died.
A few folks can’t get past the racial aspect of this case. The “thug deserved it”, etc. I have no doubt had this police assault happened at a Trump rally they would be singing another tune.
You’re and idiot...just an observation.
Exactly. Nobody wants bad or incompetent cops around; especially good cops. These guys must go on trial for what happened, regardless of how bad a person Floyd was in life.
Again not one article I've read about proning mentions anything about hand or arm position so it apparently doesn't matter whether or not someone has cuffs on or not. The full weight of his body was not on his neck and it wasn't on any part that had to with breathing. Now we can argue about whether or not he put him in that position to help him or not but the fact is that this is a good position for someone to be in if they are having trouble breathing....and he was.
Taking drugs up the keister. Look it up if you want to find out how druggies roll.
Dr DouglasKC silly. He is an expert. I gotta tell you I have heard a lot is stupid opinions. But this one is bar none the most stupid thing I have heard this year. Possibly this century.
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