The family that owns The New York Times were slaveholders: Goodwin

New York Post ^ | 7/19/2020 | Michael Goodwin

[ChronicMA]

Sometime later, after Lincoln’s death, slaves all over the United States were freed.
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in fairness to Lincoln, the federal part of passing the 13th amendment was completed in his first term, prior to his second inaugural and assassination. A president has little control over the speed of dozens of state legislatures, yet they did get it passed in 1865 the year of Lincoln's death.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

" The family that owns The New York Times were slaveholders"

[jeffersondem]

“in fairness to Lincoln, the federal part of passing the 13th amendment was completed in his first term, prior to his second inaugural and assassination.”

Congress completed passage of the 13th on January 31, 1865 - well after the 1864 presidential election but before the second inauguration.

Unfortunately Lincoln did not introduce the abolition amendment when he served in Congress. Had he used his considerable story-telling abilities to peacefully pass the amendment at that time, it would have been unnecessary later to use the military to "fight to free the slaves."

[ChronicMA]

Unfortunately Lincoln did not introduce the abolition amendment when he served in Congress. Had he used his considerable story-telling abilities to peacefully pass the amendment at that time, it would have been unnecessary later to use the military to "fight to free the slaves."
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He served in congress in the 1840s as a member of the Whig Party. Before the Compromise of 1850, the political situation was quite different. It seems unfair to single out Lincoln for not pushing abolition at that time.

[apoliticalone]

Were the current “liberal” Jewish owners of the NY times also slave traders as inferred in the article? What should bother us is many of these same virtue signaling leftists who always blame poor white deplorables as the real racists, and of course white supremacists and much about our founding fathers as racist and evil. The left and their hypocrisy will eat themselves.

Another interesting article by Goodwin.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/ny-times-praises-cancel-culture-but-skips-its-own-racist-history-goodwin/

[jeffersondem]

“He served in congress in the 1840s as a member of the Whig Party. Before the Compromise of 1850, the political situation was quite different. It seems unfair to single out Lincoln for not pushing abolition at that time.”

It sounds like you are saying it is unfair to judge great Americans of the 1860’s by the standards of 2020; to deny them all the learnings of the last 160 years.

To be blunt: you are right.

Let's put the statues back up.

[Tunehead54]

Relax - that's history. CWII is just around the corner except you'll be shooting mostly white college age socialist/communist wannabees.

You could take the floor of Congress for a year and the South where I live was not going to surrender their slaves. It took a war and countless deaths to free the slaves.

In the early 60's Blacks were growing into the middle class, had nuclear families but segregation and democrat Jim Crow laws still held sway and despite LBJ's "Great Society" actually because of it - put Blacks back on the plantation and all the subsequent social legislation kept them there permanently with few exceptions to this day.

For the timid of heart please avert your eyes:

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[Tunehead54]

Oops - Good post - sorry to miss you for #27.

Th54

[ChronicMA]

I agree that people should be judged much more by the standards of their own time. The influence of the society that surrounds you on your beliefs is substantial.