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Top 10 Infantry Rifles of All Time
americanrifleman ^

Posted on 07/15/2020 3:47:21 AM PDT by AggregateThreat

Given that, the effectiveness of infantry rifles is a slippery question and rating one against the other is certainly a subjective one. Our choices are based on a number of factors; innovation, effectiveness, service life, impact on history and small-arms development. These are the choices of our editors, no doubt you have your own, perhaps better choices. We don’t expect it to be definitive and hope only to spark debate and interest among our readers.

Omissions from the list will no doubt provoke the most questions, so I will try to explain the absence of some of your, and our, favorites. Some innovative wonder guns like the Stoner 63 and the FG42 were dropped because of their limited service history.

One of our personal favorites, the M14, was dropped because we decided that when two comparable contemporary guns were on the list, like the M14 and the FN FAL, the tie had to go to the gun with the greater historical impact and longer service life, rather than the gun we liked best. Even if, when all is said and done, some of us would rather go into harm’s way with the M14.

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1 posted on 07/15/2020 3:47:21 AM PDT by AggregateThreat
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To: AggregateThreat

For 6 months I carried an M14 that always worked, then they took it away and gave me an M16 that jammed in fire fights.


2 posted on 07/15/2020 3:51:53 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: AggregateThreat

First came the rock.


3 posted on 07/15/2020 4:00:47 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: BuffaloJack
I never served in,or near,combat so the only experience I've ever had with a weapon of war was BCT (1969).We were the last cycle at Fort Knox to qualify with the M-14 and the first to qualify with the M-16.I liked the M-14 better and scored "Expert" with it but only scored "Marksman" with the M-16.

A Marine I know...who was in Hue during the Tet Offensive...has told me about the many problems of the M-16.

4 posted on 07/15/2020 4:01:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: BuffaloJack

Of course it worked. The m-14 bring an updated Garand. The m -16 would have worked too if the politicians would have allowed it to be put out the way Stoner designed it. But they had contracts with Olin who made ball powder that was filthy and gummed up the works. Had they used DuPont as indicated by Stoner there would have been no jams. So they eventually chromed the chambers and installed that little round pusher button to overcome the powder problem.

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5 posted on 07/15/2020 4:04:08 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: BuffaloJack

I carried an M16, CAR15, M3, a Thompson, an M79, and an M14.

The M14 was my hands-down favorite.


6 posted on 07/15/2020 4:04:24 AM PDT by Bruiser 10 (They're losing the consent of the governed.)
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To: AggregateThreat

The 1886 French Lebel should have made the list. It was the first rifle to use smokeless powder and fire a smaller caliber bullet. It was the daddy of the Mauser and Lee-Enfield.


7 posted on 07/15/2020 4:11:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: AggregateThreat

Carried the M-14 for 13 months in VN. Many hundreds of rounds during countless firefights. Packed with mud, rinsed in rice paddies and never a jam or miss-fire. Saved my life and I loved that rifle.


8 posted on 07/15/2020 4:16:20 AM PDT by theirjustdue
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To: Vaquero
that little round pusher button

Forward assist.

9 posted on 07/15/2020 4:26:09 AM PDT by LouAvul (Put them in fear, O Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Psalms 9:20)
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To: BuffaloJack
For 6 months I carried an M14 that always worked, then they took it away and gave me an M16 that jammed in fire fights.

And stuck with it for 55 years. The M16/M4 must really be a piece of crap for it to have lasted that long.

10 posted on 07/15/2020 4:29:59 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: AggregateThreat
Couldn't agree more: the M16 was an obscenity when we got them: tore the case heads off the fired cartridge and then stuffed a fresh cartridge into was was left in the chamber. Marines that carried them had to carry an assembled cleaning rod full time to try knock that mess out of the chamber during firefights. Damn thing was fragile too.

I kept my M-14, thanks to some awfully permissive leaders and stayed alive.

11 posted on 07/15/2020 4:32:56 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Yo-Yo
"And stuck with it for 55 years. The M16/M4 must really be a piece of crap for it to have lasted that long."

Or the Army is just stubbornly sticking with it because we have so many and a mountain of 5.56 ammo in stockpiles.

We're just lucky that we haven't been involved in a major war against a first-line combatant during that period.

12 posted on 07/15/2020 4:37:24 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Chainmail

“Did the M-16 have a 3 round burst fire option?”
“In a sense, yes”


13 posted on 07/15/2020 4:47:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

Yes: “3 only”.


14 posted on 07/15/2020 4:52:35 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Chainmail

The original M-16 had full auto and semi-auto. The 3 round burst feature came later.


15 posted on 07/15/2020 4:57:18 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: BuffaloJack

Basic Training we were training with original M16s, yes they jammed a lot - especially with blanks. But I liked the brand new M16A2 issued when I got to my unit. In a sense the training was pretty good because we HAD to keep our rifles maintained to get off a few shots.


16 posted on 07/15/2020 5:07:39 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: AggregateThreat

M-16 served me well from 69-72. As long as I did my part it did it’s, light, quick, sleek and accurate. I could carry twice as much ammo as somebody hauling around the M-14 and even grab some extra grenades.


17 posted on 07/15/2020 5:14:12 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Chainmail

M-16 was full auto.


18 posted on 07/15/2020 5:15:50 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: AggregateThreat

I cannot understand the non-inclusion of the Mosin-Nagant. This list is heavy on European and American favorites, but the Mosin-Nagant probably had more to do with real shifts in geo-political power.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm


19 posted on 07/15/2020 5:17:30 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: snoringbear
"That comes Later!"
20 posted on 07/15/2020 5:20:01 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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