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Believe the Polls This Time [sez The Atlantic, bwahaha]
The Atlamtic ^ | 7/2/2020 | Stanley Greenberg

Posted on 07/10/2020 10:35:20 AM PDT by simpson96

Recent polls could hardly be more reassuring for voters who want to be done with Donald Trump. “Biden Builds Largest Lead This Year,” a CNN headline declared. “Biden Hits 55%–41% Against Trump in Biggest National Poll Lead Yet,” reported The Daily Beast. “Republicans should be petrified by the polls,” a Washington Post opinion piece asserted. Yet the polls also frighten Democrats who, four years ago, got their hopes up amid favorable numbers for Hillary Clinton.

Noting reports that Joe Biden holds a healthy lead in Michigan—one of three Rust Belt states in which Trump narrowly upset Clinton—Representative Debbie Dingell told participants in a recent online Democratic campaign event, “I don’t believe these numbers.” And Dingell, who introduced herself at the event as “Debbie Downer,” has standing to dispute polls that look rosy for her party. In 2016, she’d warned me that the Clinton campaign was going badly in Macomb County—the suburban home of the white, working-class, Catholic voters whom my research decades earlier had labeled “Reagan Democrats.” Dingell’s fear that Clinton could lose Michigan was borne out.

But this moment is very different. To start, during the summer and fall of 2016, Clinton never had the kind of national poll lead that Biden now has. She led by an average of four points four months before the election and the same four points just before Election Day.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: biden; fakenews; fakepolls; jeffreygoldberg; johnbolton; sarahhuckabeesanders; tds; theatlantic
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1 posted on 07/10/2020 10:35:20 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: simpson96
"Believe the Polls This Time"


2 posted on 07/10/2020 10:37:42 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: rightwingcrazy

The knuckleheads didn’t learn anything from 2016.


3 posted on 07/10/2020 10:38:44 AM PDT by EdgeOfDarkness
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To: simpson96

I believe that half of the country are probably communist idiots..but the rest of the country does NOT want Communism, we are the ones that are going to have to go to the polls to make sure America is NEVER a communist country


4 posted on 07/10/2020 10:39:39 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: simpson96

Biden is getting around only 77 percent Black support on every poll. Of course the media is quiet about this.


5 posted on 07/10/2020 10:41:15 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It isn’t half the country. The media blows things up to make it seem that way. Same effect they use to make it seem like there are homosexuals everywhere.


6 posted on 07/10/2020 10:42:09 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: EdgeOfDarkness
The knuckleheads didn’t learn anything from 2016.

Sure they did. They know to be even more blatant about fake polls, voter fraud, and voter intimidation. We're letting the country collapse around us. What freedoms we had coming into 2020 are being eliminated. The left is winning the war. Big time. They aren't taking anything to chance. They want full control of all branches of the US government. When that happens, we're done without a fight from the right.

7 posted on 07/10/2020 10:42:12 AM PDT by CatOwner
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A democrat has NEVER lost an election, if you believe the media polls. In a way, it helps legitimize voter fraud.


8 posted on 07/10/2020 10:43:10 AM PDT by Professional
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To: simpson96

don’t tell them that the polls are wrong, we want as many of the democrat losers to stay home on their couches. I’m looking forward to toasting Trump’s victory with a glass of liberal tears.


9 posted on 07/10/2020 10:46:11 AM PDT by euram
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To: cowboyusa
"Biden is getting around only 77 percent Black support on every poll."

That is very telling.

The media is also quiet on how Biden is doing vs. Trump with Independents.

10 posted on 07/10/2020 10:49:17 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: simpson96
Believe the polls and the media this time. ..like in 1948

11 posted on 07/10/2020 10:51:23 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: EdgeOfDarkness

They did.
The polls are even more fake this year than they have ever been.


12 posted on 07/10/2020 10:54:20 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: simpson96

Was Donald Trump, or any Republican, shown as having a lead over Hillary Clinton at any time in 2016? Was the gap for any of them ever shown as anything less than 5 or 10 percent? IIRC, the answer is no. If anything, they’re more motivational to Trump’s voters. Comments to the contrary reflect, I believe, a profound misunderstanding of our psychology versus the opposition’s.


13 posted on 07/10/2020 10:58:32 AM PDT by katana
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To: simpson96

Questions to ask ourselves: Am I more likely or less likely in 2020 compared to 2016 to answer a poll honestly about voting for Trump ?


14 posted on 07/10/2020 11:00:36 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Trump rally July 11, Saturday, 8 p.m. EDT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNwoWkJLVX0

Saturday, July 11, 2020: Join RSBN for all day live coverage from the Portsmouth International Airport at Pease in Portsmouth, NH as President Donald Trump holds a Make America Great Again rally!


15 posted on 07/10/2020 11:01:38 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: simpson96

“I know, I know, I know communism has failed every other time it has been tried, but WE are doing it now and THIS time it will work, comrades. The polls are right - disregard those silly enthusiasm numbers.”


16 posted on 07/10/2020 11:07:20 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies)
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To: simpson96

Ignore polls and ignore predictions. Get out and vote, get out and campaign, get out the checkbook and make a donation. President Trump must be reelected and the Senate must stay Republican majority at the very least.

Thanks for all of the support from fellow FReepers.

JoMa


17 posted on 07/10/2020 11:10:20 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: Raycpa

In 2016 I voted against Hillary because I knew evil when I saw it.

This time I will vote for Pres. Trump with great enthusiasm.


18 posted on 07/10/2020 11:11:21 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Pres. Trump doesn't wear glasses. That's because he's got 2020.")
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To: simpson96

I might be delusional but i kind of think that even with the Cruz/Trump divide that everyone...some more reluctant than others..came together and got behind Trump.
This time there is NO divide..everyone ..is in for Trump.
Other than the true Never Trumpers who would never be for anyone who wasn’t an establishment pub or a neocon or a RINO.
Again, pure speculation..but i think there are more Trump Democrats, like there were Reagan Democrats, out there then are being counted. They see how nuts there party has become.
Pro-radical ..anti cop..trans in the military..in your face homos and they say NO.


19 posted on 07/10/2020 11:20:35 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: elcid1970

Setting up for riots that will make the last round pale in comparison. “But the polls said Biden\Abrams would win..how could they lose Pennsylvania by 3 points.....”.


20 posted on 07/10/2020 11:23:11 AM PDT by pburgh01 (It's the FLU!)
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