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With F-22 Stealth Fighters Running Out, The U.S. Air Force Got Desperate
Forbes ^ | Jun 13, 2020 | David Axe

Posted on 07/10/2020 10:09:35 AM PDT by mowowie

A hurricane that struck Florida in late 2018 damaged and displaced so many of the U.S. Air Force’s F-22 Raptor stealth fighters that the flying branch resorted to desperate measures to ensure it could fly enough F-22 sorties.

It underscores how few Raptors the Air Force possesses, and how fragile the fleet could be if it ever sustains major losses in wartime.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: airforce; f22; raptor
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To: mowowie

If you ae referring to F-22s, only 189 were made before the Obey Amendment killed further production. Now only 125 or so are combat ready - all the rest are either spare parts, hanger queens or in maintenance. It would cost too much to restart production if were even possible.

The future is unmanned drones with AI or more quickly drones used as loyal wingmen controlled by either a single fighter or by a dedicated airframe.


21 posted on 07/10/2020 10:43:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Kozak; mowowie

Actually, it was the destroyer of the Boy Scouts, Robert Gates, who was the impetus behind the defunding of the F-22.

Nevertheless, Purple Lips was where the buck finally stopped.


22 posted on 07/10/2020 10:44:08 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: Flick Lives

Well...I work the overnight shift so i gotta go to bed soon.
BUT Tomorrow i’ll see what i can find!


23 posted on 07/10/2020 10:44:45 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie

Thanks to obunghole.


24 posted on 07/10/2020 10:51:22 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: PIF

Yea, like the surprise unveiling of the F-117 i cannot wait to see what the Skunk Works has in store for us..


25 posted on 07/10/2020 10:51:45 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: The Pack Knight

I second that scorn.


26 posted on 07/10/2020 10:58:20 AM PDT by Eastern Shore Virginian (I am 100% certain.........but I may be wrong.)
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To: mowowie
One of my daily reads is The War Zone. The main guy, Tyler, can meander a small bit into Trump bitching, but overall it's a great source to post from.
27 posted on 07/10/2020 10:58:22 AM PDT by reintarnation (not a noob, i just change my identity over the years...)
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To: mowowie

” astronomy, technology”

Trolling for jokes?


28 posted on 07/10/2020 11:05:51 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: lurk

Airmen at Tyndall were able to fly out just 38 of the 55 Raptors prior to the storm. The remaining 17 jets—nearly a tenth of all F-22s—were down for maintenance. Those jets rode out the wind and rain in hangars. Some suffered damage.

Airmen promptly repaired many of the jets. Photos depicted small numbers of F-22 departing the Florida base on Oct. 21 and 24. The last three F-22s left Tyndall on Nov. 16.


29 posted on 07/10/2020 11:09:53 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: mowowie

or Boeing Phantom Works. Lockmart is Skunk Works - it just depends on who gets the final bid


30 posted on 07/10/2020 11:12:18 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: mowowie

If our air force gets destroyed (sabotage, neglect, etc) we still have our aircraft carriers.


31 posted on 07/10/2020 11:14:42 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: mowowie
Time to make a stealth version oof the only jet worth a sh!t! The A10 Warthog! Its tough as hell and doesnt cost trillions


32 posted on 07/10/2020 11:20:00 AM PDT by Bommer (I'm a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: mowowie

LOL! I agree. Are you also taking requests? Monty Python biographies and the new FGC-9 pistol have potential. As well as lbry.tv stuff of credibility.


33 posted on 07/10/2020 11:21:18 AM PDT by griffin
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To: mowowie
I'm not sure the Air Force has time to maintain it's squadrons. So much time is needed for cancel culture activities and making sure all shadow government political agendas are being satisfied.
34 posted on 07/10/2020 11:23:48 AM PDT by griffin
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To: lurk

No i remember reading this when it happened.

They actually didn’t move them beforehand.

Incredible.


35 posted on 07/10/2020 11:24:44 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

IIRC the transportation options were limited due to the time required for disassembly to fit on transports and get them out of there.


36 posted on 07/10/2020 11:28:08 AM PDT by griffin
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To: PIF

” Boeing Phantom Works. Lockmart is Skunk Works - it just depends on who gets the final bid”

Thank God for the Skunkworks and Lockheed.During the initial flyoff between the F-35 and the Competitor built by Boeing the Boeing Aircraft was truly a dog.

It couldn’t do half of the things required by the Air force Such as operating in a VSTOL Mode or flying supersonic from Vertical flight to Supersonic.

That was one ugly plane and it appeared to be built by a committee of Non-Flight engineers.

Look it up.That plane was a disaster in the making.Yet we still have critics bitching about the F-35.


37 posted on 07/10/2020 11:28:53 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: griffin

Which begs the question why they were being kept there in the first place. Or why fortifying/beefing up the hangars wasn’t done.


38 posted on 07/10/2020 11:35:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mowowie
When the powers that be decided to end the production, even though those decision makers didn't have our best interests in mind, I couldn't help but think that perhaps there are other assets available or assets in the pipeline that will soon become available that make the need for more F-22’s only optional.

I hope that's not just wishful thinking on my part although it likely is.

39 posted on 07/10/2020 11:40:56 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: mowowie

Combat readiness is far down the AF list of priorities now, same with the other services too. Insubordination to the Commander in Chief remains at the top.


40 posted on 07/10/2020 11:58:24 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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