[RetiredArmy]

Back in the middle 1980s I was stationed in Munich, West Germany. I was the NCOIC of the Judge Advocate General's Corp (JAG) Office there and worked with my Trial Counsel (prosecutor's in the Army) doing court-martials. We had a very serious case of child sexual abuse that involved several families, where the husbands and wives swapped around and they included older children, mainly the girls, ages 12 or 13 up to 15 or 16. The young girls would go with mama to see the man they would be with that night and the man would have sex with mama and daughter both!!! It was sick I tell you, just stinking sick.

Our entire case was on the back of two or three of the girls telling one of their teachers at the school there in Munich all about the sexual events. The Army CID investigated and took sworn statements from the girls. THAT was the case. The families all got a big civilian lawyer, an American, from up in Frankfurt. Somehow, some way, the mothers and fathers got to their daughters and the girls started to change their stories.

It became a goat rope of a case. In the end, we only got enough evidence on two soldiers and their wives. Both got court-martialed and did some jail time and got kicked out of the Army. But the main people were a couple of very senior NCO's. They were the ring leaders, but we could never get the two that got jail time to flip on the others. Don't know why, they just would not deal for lesser charges and potential jail time. It was a case that made you want to puke. My attorney and I had a bunch of interviews with the girls. Their stories seemed real and they seemed truthful. The stories they told were just to graphic to not be true.

[JudgemAll]

Like i say, in many cases of rape, if there is no woman enabler, it rarely happens. MEtoo is a fraud. To let the women go every time only allows the exploitation to continue. Going after the guy alone is like banning knives while allowing the punches to continue...

[rlmorel]

My dad worked at the Navy Yard in DC back in 1963-1967, and he had a job that he never talked about. He was in charge of figuring out how to dispose of men who got in trouble. Dishonorable for this one, something else for another, etc. (Given your background, that probably is a piss poor description)

Apparently, he hated the job. My mom told me after he died that the job was his penance for asking for a shore job. He was in line for a destroyer command and had been down in the Cuba Quarantine as the XO on a DD and was recommended for command, but felt he needed to spend some time with his family...and they obliged.

Anyway, my mom said he never talked about it. Apparently, these weren’t the guys who went UA and stuff, these were people who had serious issues and had done bad or seriously immoral things in the eyes of the Navy.

I’ll bet that, like you, he saw things that stuck with him.

[colorado tanker]

I know it's a cliche but the Army really is a microcosm of American society and, unfortunately, that includes some bad actors.

I feel sorry even for the girls who flipped. They would be messed up and have issues in adulthood.

[Bigg Red]

Very said.

Prayers up. Too much evil rampant in the world.