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Vanity | 6 July 2020 | Self

Posted on 07/06/2020 7:46:24 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate

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To: An.American.Expatriate

It MIGHT persuade some of the sheeple, though


21 posted on 07/06/2020 8:19:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF)
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To: liberalh8ter
Sorry but I think the families of these children are suffering enough without their children being used in this manner.

I disagree. Now is exactly the time to give these innocents a chance at justice and call for a change. We let the other side dictate the narrative - we need to start doing that ourselves.

22 posted on 07/06/2020 8:21:05 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Instead of Black Lives Matter, have a sign saying Black Children Matter. Then expand that to include aborted black children.
23 posted on 07/06/2020 8:21:18 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: 82nd Bragger
Not without an armed Federal escort. Even then, the left would spin this as fedgov overreach.

We don't need the feds to get involved - that would actually be detrimental.

24 posted on 07/06/2020 8:22:53 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

Education.
.
They need it.


25 posted on 07/06/2020 8:23:01 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (,,,,,,The Issue is The Revolution!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

The term “Black Lives Matter” and “BLM” are more than words, they are an ideology if you will. Using them in any way only serves to further their agenda.

Calling them out as haters and Marxists and anti-justice monsters and useful idiots etc is necessary. Avoiding their terms is in my opinion essential to deflating the perceived value or gravitas they desire and possess to some degree already. They are an insidious virus as dangerous as any biological agent. Inoculate and protect is needed. They need carriers to spread the disease of hatred and counter-racism and it seems silly white women and snowflake boys are most susceptible. The “gibmedats” are still gang banging and dealing drugs among themselves, happily and liberal cities and states are purified to do anything but acquiesce up til now.

They all will reap the whirlwind, eventually.


26 posted on 07/06/2020 8:23:11 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: aimhigh
Then expand that to include aborted black children.

Again, including abortion in this will only serve to dilute the message. The left would then make the entire "movement" about abortion and the true message here would be lost. It is all about taking THEIR narrative and using it against them.

27 posted on 07/06/2020 8:25:27 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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Antifa’s a domestic terrorist group...

BLM might be too... certainly smacks of Marxism - - commie infiltrated?

Maybe the FBI needs to take a serious look - if there’s any decent people left in the FBI.


28 posted on 07/06/2020 8:28:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu.."TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH" -(imred)
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To: Manly Warrior
The term “Black Lives Matter” and “BLM” are more than words, they are an ideology if you will. Using them in any way only serves to further their agenda.

Forcing them to either support all "Black Lives" or distance themselves from our message would indeed have an impact, especially among those who are disgusted with the movement, but fell the need to support its main message.

29 posted on 07/06/2020 8:28:46 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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Maybe President Trump can use the bully pulpit ...

Start with St. George - his life mattered and was ended tragically. (Whether the police overreacted or not - it was tragic)
Move to other famous cases - noting the deaths and that they were “needless”.
Then to the innocents - names, dates, etc ...

after each and every one, the simple statement his/her life mattered and each case needs to be investigated and where necessary justice dispensed.


30 posted on 07/06/2020 8:36:00 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

It was democrat mayors.

At any point in ANY of the damaged cities the police could have put a stop to the rioting, looting and burning. Democrat mayors tied the hands of police.

Democrat mayors allowed rioting and looting because they felt intimidation of citizens would make them fearful... and more willing to vote democrat. (sadly, it does work that way).

Did you notice how quickly the Seattle crap ended once the witch democrat mayor realized rioting was HURTING DEMOCRATS?


31 posted on 07/06/2020 8:36:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu.."TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH" -(imred)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
If the family of the child were to take up the cause or advocate for it to be taken up, that would be fine but to invoke that child’s death without their approval would make us no better than those we oppose.
32 posted on 07/06/2020 8:47:52 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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I respectfully disagree. It is never wrong to take a senseless death and champion for justice. The difference between “us and them” - we support the lives of the innocents and they support the lives of, shall we say, less than innocents.


33 posted on 07/06/2020 9:00:18 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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I doubt that any form of counter-protest can be effective.

"The Narrative" only works when it is used against us. That is what it is designed for.

It doesn't work against them because they do not really believe it themselves. They only need a rationalization for seizing power that will confuse and distract their opponents for a critical time interval while they consolidate their positions and organize their next encroachments.

"The Narrative" uses the virtues of altruism, generosity, open-mindedness, and conscience to cause self-destructive behavior in the people who have those virtues. "The Narrative" demands that people of good faith must lower all of their defenses against predators, even to the point of denial that such predators exist.

What can work for us is straightforward refusal to tolerate them. Don't argue with them, don't participate in their programs, don't accept or obey their orders. Don't hire them, don't work for them, don't permit them to remain in any position of authority.

They are doing all of these things to us right now.

Yes, I believe we have passed the point where all of this can be resolved peacefully. And look who is conjuring up all the violent mobs while we talk about peaceful solutions.

34 posted on 07/06/2020 9:07:20 AM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

Who do you suggest protect them?


35 posted on 07/06/2020 9:16:08 AM PDT by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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To: flamberge
I doubt that any form of counter-protest can be effective.

You might be right - but I think we should at least try. IMHO we have tried to change the narrative to be inclusive - which is certainly correct. But by doing so, we alienate those who might otherwise support a broader message.

I think I need to be clear - the target here is not the hardcore Marxists among the "protesters" - instead it is the people who want justice to be meted fairly, but see that this often does not happen. They feel powerless and, rightly or wrongly, believe that conservatives do not care about them. They have been force fed for so long with lies and unkept promises - they truly believe we want "string 'em up". They only way to counter that is to show compassion for their cause. By agreeing that Black Lives Matter and shifting it to ALL Black Lives Matter forces the "thugs" to take a clear position - either they all matter, or just the "thugs" do.

36 posted on 07/06/2020 9:18:36 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: 82nd Bragger

If we force our message by having “the Army” around us - we won’t get the message across.


37 posted on 07/06/2020 9:19:34 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

Good luck.


38 posted on 07/06/2020 9:20:31 AM PDT by sport
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To: An.American.Expatriate
By agreeing that Black Lives Matter and shifting it to ALL Black Lives Matter forces the "thugs" to take a clear position - either they all matter, or just the "thugs" do.

Agreement in any part of the Leftist narrative is the entering wedge by which we are undone. It does not work in the other direction.

Emotions are not ruled by logical arguments. People who feel powerless - are powerless. They will follow bright shiny images, not clever reasoning. They will avoid fearful images. If they are panicked, they will follow who ever yells the loudest and appears most confident. The "leaders" must have good acting skills. They don't need much else.

The Leftists have mastered all of these techniques. We have not.

The only way to counter that is to show compassion for their cause.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

The "Cause" promoted by Leftist groups is invariably a noble idea used to conceal evil intentions and justify evil actions. Deception is the key element of Leftist methods and it is why they continue to be successful.

We cannot accept their "Causes" at face value. We must promote our own "Causes" and imagery to do with them. It would help immensely if we do not lie about what we are doing.

39 posted on 07/06/2020 10:14:51 AM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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We cannot accept their "Causes" at face value.

I don't. Which is why we need to subvert their message itself! By showing that they selectively choose WHICH Black Lives Matter, we can drive a wedge between THEM, not us.

40 posted on 07/06/2020 2:05:32 PM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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