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Flubros and Flubras! Day 106 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 5 July 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 07/05/2020 4:28:40 AM PDT by impimp

It’s just the flu, bro.

Louis Farrakhan is the voice of reason when it comes to Corona. See link below:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/04/louis-farrakhan-fauci-bill-gates-vaccine-coronavirus/

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One of the many reasons the left wants a CV lockdown is to suppress Christianity. Every time a Mass or Church Service is prevented they are filled with the joy Satan receives when a baby is aborted.

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As a young (middle aged) Flubro I live my life with zero fear of what CV can do to me and my family. They need to let us Flubros and Flubras live freely. Again, thanks and respect to Antifa and BLM for spreading the virus and furthering herd immunity. It is that service to the commmunity and rebelliousness against lockdown oppression that should be commended.

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To recap today’s Flubro thread - I seem to have sided with Louis Farrakhan, Antifa, and BLM when it comes to the Coronavirus.


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KEYWORDS: antisciencebros; coronavirus; denialbros
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To: bagster
Rocks and hills?

all creation sings the glory of the Lord

atheists went wrong by worshipping the creation instead of the Creator

41 posted on 07/05/2020 6:34:51 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: Laslo Fripp

extra points for that post


42 posted on 07/05/2020 6:36:03 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: who knows what evil?
When expressing my faith in Jesus Christ, I was told 'good luck with that'...by a FREEPER.

That FReeper has never been in combat, never seen a fellow soldier being blown to bits.

If he had, he'd never had uttered those words.

43 posted on 07/05/2020 6:38:58 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: impimp

the mask stuff is dehumanizing people

they look like something out of a science fiction book
part insect
part human
the masks look like mandibles


44 posted on 07/05/2020 6:42:22 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: bagster

Touch Peter. That’s funny right there


45 posted on 07/05/2020 7:25:34 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Kozak
How the Marxists spent Independence Day for you, Kerryboi...

This community organizer lead the protest in chanting "America was never great!" and said we should defund the police and give the money to black communities.

As American history of sacrifices flew over DC..........


46 posted on 07/05/2020 7:27:56 AM PDT by haffast (Double Standards Exist. Freedom of Speech. Patriots are Dying. Woke is hard. Anons Know.)
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To: haffast

Maybe we need a new daily thread. It’s just a riot, bro.


47 posted on 07/05/2020 7:45:32 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Mom MD

Very good points all. Trusting in God sets you free, and that’s one thing the government sure doesn’t want.


48 posted on 07/05/2020 8:25:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: gas_dr
2. Did you find what bed he loves under?

I don’t know about you, but I’d find that position rather uncomfortable 🥵.

49 posted on 07/05/2020 8:49:10 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: SisterK; bagster

Luke 19:39-41 King James Version (KJV)

39 And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.

40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.


50 posted on 07/05/2020 8:55:09 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: who knows what evil?
The local health care system is squealing like pigs because people are gunshy about coming in for 'routine procedures'. Between cornyvirus and the statistic you quote; can you blame them?

When the doctors and dentists stop requiring masks 😷😷, I will have these routine procedures done. I cherish my freedom over peace of mind and their pocketbooks.

51 posted on 07/05/2020 8:59:19 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: who knows what evil?

BLM.. Burn Loot Murder...

Conceived by lies.. more white people are killed by cops then blacks but we don’t burn down our home towns... White privilege or common sense?

As my tagline says, “Only thing systemic in America is the left’s hatred of it.”


52 posted on 07/05/2020 9:55:36 AM PDT by maddog55 (Only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it.)
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To: impimp
Does COVID-19 truly warrant a nationwide shutdown?

No, and that has been made increasingly clear. New research in June by two medical scientists at Stanford University and UCLA found that, on average, a person in a typical medium to large U.S. county who has a single random contact with another person has a 1 in 3,836 chance of being infected without social distancing, hand-washing or mask-wearing.[1][2]

Also, the great fear of outside contact is hardly rational,[3] with one study of 318 outbreaks involving 1,245 cases in China finding just one transmission that occurred outdoors, infecting just two people. Most of those who were infected and died were occurred at home..[4] Up to eighty percent of people who become infected with the virus have either no symptoms or experience it as a mild respiratory infection.[5]

Close to half of all COVID-19 deaths have occurred in long-term care facilities, especially elder care facilities which account for over 40% of US deaths.[6][7] Which means that the 99.4 percent of the country that does not reside in those facilities is roughly half as likely to die of COVID-19,[8] even to the fatality rate of COVID-19 probably being “0.13 percent for people outside nursing homes and 0.26 percent — identical to the CDC best estimate — when people in nursing homes were included.”[9]

Even with a worse-case example - far removed from the average[10] - Word Meters finds that New York City (May 1) had an Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) of 1.4% and a 0.28% crude mortality rate (CMR) to date, or 279 deaths per 100,000 population.[11] (In New York city there is normally a a death every 9.1 minutes.[12] and primarily due to its COVID-19 death rate New York state constitutes about 29% of all reported COVID-19 deaths as of May 26, with over 19,000 deaths per million,[13] and which heavily affects the overall mortality rate of the US.[14])

(From New York State)

Up to about 80 percent of those infected with COVID-19 are estimated to be silent carriers, [15][16] meaning they show no symptoms, and the New York City labor and delivery unit found 88 percent of infected patients had no symptoms, [17] while over 600 sailors on the coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt tested positive, yet 60% of them had no symptoms such as fever, fatigue, or cough,[18]and in four U.S. state prisons nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus yet 96% were without symptoms[19] and or recover without medical care[20])

And more recently, based on CDC studies of blood samples collected nationwide, U.S. officials believe as many as 20 million Americans have contracted the coronavirus, suggesting millions had the virus and never knew it.[21] And while positive diagnosis counts continue to increase as of late June, the accuracy of the tests are still largely unknown,[22] and some persons can continue to test positive for COVID-19 after 60 days after being infected,[23] while the CDC is combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus.[24] All of which not only means that the case count is misleading, but that the infected fatality rate (IFR) is much lower than the misleading case fatality rate (CFR) that is usually quoted, while the reported death rate has decreased.[25]

Then in early June even the WHO stated that asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is “very rare.”[26] though it later expressed that this is debatable.[27] Meanwhile the vast majority of those who die because of Covid-19 are 65 years-old or more[28] and with almost 25% of all documented Covid-assigned are (which does not mean the subject was tested for Covid) fatalities in the US (91,976 as of May 18 at 8:49PM EDT) are from New York (28,480)[29] and according to one report 54% of all U.S. deaths were in the 100 counties in or within 100 miles of NYC.

And the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported that almost 90 percent of U.S. coronavirus patients who have been hospitalized had underlying health problems, or comorbidities.[30][31]

And which relates to the issue of inaccurate fatality numbers, partly due to the problem of determining the actual cause of death and the CDC guidelines which allow for reporting COVID-19 as the “probable” or “presumed” cause on the death certificate if the certifier even suspects COVID-19 was likely (e.g., the circumstances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), the cause.[32]

Which resulted in NYC suddenly adding 3,700 additional people to its death count[33](also, Federal legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment[34]), leading to charges of over-counting[35][36] while Pennsylvania removed some after coroner reports.[37]

Later, Colorado’s Health Department revised their official coronavirus death count from 1,150 as of May 15 downward to 878 (a reduction of 23.7 percent) and created two separate distinguishing categories, one of people who died directly because of the virus and another of people who had COVID-19 at their time of death but died of other causes that may not be attributable to the virus.[38][39] However, some others believe the problem is more that of under-counting. [40]

Also, another study finds that the risk of coronavirus spreading in schools is 'extremely low'.[41]

And while states continue to parrot the “stay sheltered” mantra, research shows that sunlight destroys virus quickly[42], and even a Department of Homeland Security official affirmed that increasing temperatures, humidity and sunlight are detrimental to coronavirus saliva droplets on surfaces and in the air.[43] Also, over 600 doctors signed onto a letter sent to President Trump favoring an end the "national shutdown," referring to it as being a "mass casualty incident" with "exponentially growing health consequences."[44]

Yet miles upon miles of parks and public waterfronts are shutdown, and for too long NY put infected persons in nursing homes[45] (and as of April 26, about 40 percent of COVID-19 deaths were in the state of New York alone. New Jersey was in second place, with nearly 5,900[46]yet the death rate is uncritically employed to justify nationwide lockdowns) while in states such as Illinois law-breaking prisoners were released from their “quarantine” - including some “high risk” sexual offenders[47] and some convicted of murder - [48] and almost a third of county jail inmates have been released from facilities during the coronavirus pandemic.[49] Meanwhile over 2,000[50] of the most vulnerable souls a day in “quarantine” - their mother’s womb - are murdered, many by the same persons claim to be for protecting the vulnerable.

Moreover, the extremely restrictive all-ages long-term response to COVID-19 simply has no precedent in American history except (to a degree) that of the 1918 flu (in which baseball was still played) which up t 675,000 deaths are attributed.[51]

The Asian flu pandemic of 1957-1958 resulted in a estimated 116,000 deaths in America[52] (followed by the Hong Kong flu with about est. 100,000 American deaths in 1968–69), when at about 173,000,000, the population size in 57-58 was close to half of what it is now (330,541,000, rounded figures).

Meaning that not only was the infection death rate much higher than for COVID-19, but there would have to be about 200,000 COVID-19 est. deaths to be comparable to the Asian flu as regards percentaged of population. Yet that would simply make it basically equal as concerns the numbers of deaths in proportion to population size, but to justify the "CovidCaptivity," one would have to argue that the Asian flu should have necessitated a response like that to COVID-19. The Soviets would have favored that for sure.

The question then is, where was the COVID-19 comparative response in 57-58 in proportion to its threat? Yes, the 116,000 deaths in America to the Asian flu was for the whole year, yet even if we reach about 200,000 deaths (we pray not) for COVID-19 then that type of equality would still mean that the extremely restrictive all-ages long-term response to COVID-19 simply has no precedent in American history, except to a degree with the far more deadly (550,000 to 675,000 Americans, or 0.66% of the population) 1918 flu.

And during which medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. [53]

Finally, the long-term cost for the questionable[54]“cure” - as meaning preventing deaths via the stay-sheltered COVID captivity - will be more costly in lives and money [55] including psychosocial consequences[56] than a more moderate response that would allow for a faster rise in cases but a better decrease and overall a more healthy populace in the long run. [57][58][59]

Economically, estimates project total losses in state and local revenue of up to 45 percent, effecting 90,000 nonfederal-government entities that provide and pay for most of the government services that Americans receive.[60] And while states look to the Federal government to bail them out, the additional costs and declining revenues stemming from Covid-19 are expected to produce a 2020 budget deficit in excess of $4.2 trillion.[61]

And most of government income comes from taxes, via businesses and those who are employed ( income taxes, payroll taxes, and corporate taxes)[62], yet businesses are failing across America, and in New York alone the governor stated that small businesses constitute “90 percent of New York's businesses” and “more than 100,000 have shut permanently since the pandemic hit.”[63]

Moreover (as of May 20), with 2.43 million in America filing for an unemployment,[64] the rate is at least 20%.[65] Also, according to one meta-analysis of 42 studies involving 20 million people, the risk of death increases 63 percent when one loses their job, and that for every one percentage point increase in the unemployment rate, there are 37,000 deaths, mainly from heart attacks, but another 1,000 from suicides and another 650 from homicides.[66]

And as concerns just suicide, we have reports such as “Calls to suicide and help hotline in Los Angeles increase 8,000% due to coronavirus,”[67] and “Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the COVID-19 virus,”[68]

Yet while we seek to save lives, 7,000 Americans die every day in the US from a wide range of causes [69] - besides over 2,000 a day being slain in the “quarantine” of their mother’s womb[70] - my prayer is that all sinners will come to repentance and faith in the risen Lord Jesus and be baptized and follow Him.

Hope this helps. PeaceByJesus

Footnotes

[1] Estimated Average Probabilities of COVID-19 Infection, Hospitalization, and Death From Community Contact in the United States
[2] What’s your risk from coronavirus? Lower than we think, new study suggests
[3] The paranoid style in COVID-19 America | Spectator USA
[4] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1.full.pdf
[5] COVID-19 shows that experts don't know everything
[6] STAGGERING: Nursing Home Residents Account for a Whopping 43.4% of COVID-19 Deaths, Even Though They're Less Than 1% of the U.S. Population
[7] 43% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes
[8] The Most Important Coronavirus Statistic: 42% Of U.S. Deaths Are From 0.6% Of The Population
[9] Page on washingtonpost.com
[10] Image on justfacts.com
[11] Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19)
[12] Population Facts
[13] United States Coronavirus: 1,725,524 Cases and 100,573 Deaths
[14] Don't Buy the Misleading Figures. Here's the Real Story About How the U.S. Matches Up on Coronavirus Deaths
[15] Coronavirus Outbreak: Daily Updates
[16] New Study Shows the Extent of Symptom-Free Coronavirus Spread
[17] https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/20/we-tested-all-our-patients-covid-19-found-lots-asymptomatic-cases/
[18] Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free
[19] In four U.S. state prisons, nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus -- 96% without symptoms
[20] The basics on the coronavirus: What you need to know as the US becomes the new epicenter of COVID-19
[21] US health officials believe 20 million Americans have had coronavirus
[22] Accuracy of COVID-19 tests still largely unknown
[23] Why is the low hospitalization of patients with COVID-19?
[24] ‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’
[25] COVID-19 deaths decline despite surge in cases, hospitalizations
[26] Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is 'very rare,' WHO says
[27] WHO walks back comments on asymptomatic coronavirus spread, says much is still unknown
[28] CDC: 80 percent of US coronavirus deaths are people 65 and older
[29] New York Coronavirus: 361,266 Cases and 28,480 Deaths (COVID-19 )
[30] Hospitalization Rates and Characteristics of Patients Hospitalized ...
[31] COVID-19 deaths decline despite surge in cases, hospitalizations
[32] Technical Notes: Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
[33] N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count
[34] Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
[35] As US coronavirus death toll mounts, so does the belief by some that it is exaggerated
[36] Death Toll Conspiracy: Why Conservative Media—And Soon, Possibly Trump—Are Doubting Coronavirus Mortality Figures
[37] Pennsylvania Takes Hundreds of 'Probable' COVID Deaths Off Books After Coroners Come Forward
[38] Colorado's state health dept. revises method of counting COVID-19 deaths; 878 deaths as of Friday - KRDO
[39] Case data | Colorado COVID-19 Updates
[40] How are COVID-19 deaths counted?
[41] Risk of coronavirus spreading in schools is 'extremely low' study finds 
[42] https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/17/sunlight-destroys-virus-quickly-new-govt-tests-find-but-experts-say-pandemic-could-last-through-summer
[43] https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-23/us-official-sunlight-heat-humidity-could-help-kill-coronavirus
[44] Doctors raise alarm about health effects of continued coronavirus shutdown: 'Mass casualty incident'
[45] How States Turned Nursing Homes Into ‘Slaughter Houses’ By Forcing Them to Admit Discharged COVID-19 Patients | Jon Miltimore
[46] New York vs. Texas: NY Has Nearly 50 Times More COVID-19 Deaths Per Capita | Ryan McMaken
[47] CA Gov. Frees Seven ‘High Risk’ Sex Offenders, Orders Beaches Closed, All In Same County - LaCorte News
[48] Almost 4,000 inmates released from IL prisons, 64 convicted of murder
[49] One Third Of Jail Inmates Nationwide Set Free in Unprecedented Coronavirus Jailbreak - Big League Politics
[50] Induced Abortion in the United States
[51] Spanish flu - Wikipedia
[52] 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus)
[53] Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic
[54] Analysis raises questions about coronavirus shutdown's effectiveness
[55] Anxiety From Reactions to Covid-19 Will Destroy At Least Seven Times More Years of Life Than Can Be Saved by Lockdowns
[56] Years of life lost due to the psychosocial consequences of COVID19 mitigation strategies based on Swiss data
[57] Stanford University doctor: 'You are mistaken' if you think coronavirus lockdowns provide safety
[58] Thanks to COVID-19, Social Security’s day of reckoning may be even closer than we thought
[59] Workers opt for unemployment as benefits exceed job pay
[60] America’s Next Crisis Is Already Here
[61] Coronavirus Budget Projections | Manhattan Institute
[62] Who Really Pays Uncle Sam's Bills?
[63] Coronavirus Forces 100K NY Small Businesses To Close Permanently
[64] United States Initial Jobless Claims
[65] Don’t Be Fooled By Official Unemployment Rate Of 14.7%; The Real Figure Is Even Scarier
[66] Studies: The Shutdown Is NOT Lives Vs. Dollars, It’s Lives Vs. Lives - The Revolutionary Act
[67] Calls to suicide and help hotline in Los Angeles increase 8,000% due to coronavirus
[68] Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say
[69] QuickStats: Average Daily Number of Deaths, by Month — United States,
[70] Induced Abortion in the United States

53 posted on 07/05/2020 11:10:04 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Mom MD
TPTB also wish us to live in fear contrary by to what our faith tells us.

I believe that's their campaign strategy. Confident people vote for Trump. Confident people question the narrative. Confident people ask why the gubberment is in the way of them doing what they want to do.

Fearful people are easily controlled, do as they're told. Fearful people worry. Fearful people...wear masks. Fearful people just want the troubles to go away. Confident people would ask...why is it the Left is behind every trouble we have? Is the problem institutional racism, or institutional liberalism? Questioning, not accepting. Remember, if you're catching flack, you're over the target.

So anyone who says there's nothing political about wearing masks is either lying or naive. For the Left, everything is political, always.

Gubberment is never in the way if you want to riot, or gang bang, or do drugs, or stand in the middle of the freeway at 1:00 AM. But go to church, open your business, go to the beach, no no. Can't have none of that nonsense.

Hence my tagline.

I don't know how to ensure the world I want, but I'm convinced the first step is confidence in the rightness of our cause and our fitness to realize it.

54 posted on 07/05/2020 11:30:18 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: Kozak

It’s one thing being forced to be a tool. It’s a whole other critter doing so willingly.


55 posted on 07/05/2020 11:34:00 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: McGruff
Anybody need any Ventilators???

Remember when the mantra was ventilators, we need them everywhere, ventilators for everyone!!!

Now the medical experts say...only as a very last resort.

56 posted on 07/05/2020 11:38:42 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: gogeo

Yes. and the other part is to realize things will only worsen until our Lord returns. We should work to restore sanity here as much as possible but realize that this world is not our endgame and this has been preordained. Maranatha


57 posted on 07/05/2020 11:43:29 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: daniel1212

I am convinced all of this is to usher in the one world government and establish the Mark. What surprises me although it probably shouldn’t is the stunning ease that it has happened with. I used to think the great deception would involve aliens. Now I am beginning to think this is the great deception


58 posted on 07/05/2020 11:46:24 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Fear and faith are opposites.


59 posted on 07/05/2020 11:56:58 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: gogeo

Of course they are. where did I ever say to fear anything


60 posted on 07/05/2020 11:58:46 AM PDT by Mom MD
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