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Putin Unveils Rzhev Memorial: We'll Not Let That Our Victory Be Besmirched By Lies & Falsifications![Video]
Russia Insight ^
| June 30, 2020
| Staff
Posted on 06/30/2020 12:31:23 PM PDT by C19fan
President of Russia Vladimir Putin and President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko attended the ceremony to unveil the Rzhev Memorial to the Soviet Soldier.
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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: putinsbuttboys; russia; war
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Imagine a series of battles with over 3 MM casualties being lost to history. That was the Battle of Rzhev. After the Soviet Counteroffensive of Winter 1941-42 that drove the Nazis away from Moscow the Germans managed to hold a salient centered on the town of Rzhev. The Red Army poured massive resources into trying to eliminate the salient as it was a potential jumping off point if the Nazis wanted to have another go art Moscow. The area became known as the Rzhev Meat Grinder. The area was heavily forested with swamps favoring the Nazis on defense. Marshall Zhukov tried to eliminate the salient in Operation Mars in late 1942 as the Red Army was surrounding and liquidating the 6th Army in Stalingrad. the Soviet lost an estimated 100,000 killed and 230,000 wounded and failed. The Germans finally pulled out of the salient to free up forced for Operation Citadel. This battle was lost in history as the Soviets did not want to talk about their failing to eliminate the salient. With the Soviet archives being opened up a lot of literature has been published about these series of battles.
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:31:23 PM PDT
by
C19fan
To: C19fan
But how does this help black lives matter?
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:38:17 PM PDT
by
Skywise
To: Skywise
A Nation that celebrates their history, what a concept!
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:39:43 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: C19fan
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:41:24 PM PDT
by
livius
To: C19fan
The other meat grinder which disappeared from history is Mga, south of Leningrad. It is on the main transportation lines from the German area and to Moscow. Units which were traveling to Leningrad met on the roads in Mga, beat themselves to pieces, and never went further. Commanders sent units to Leningrad, they never arrived, so they sent more to check on what happened.
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:44:12 PM PDT
by
wbarmy
(I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
To: wbarmy
Stalin had almost everyone involved with the Defense of Leningrad killed after the war. He always saw Leningrad as a threat to his power, too independent from Moscow.
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:45:09 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: dfwgator
Isn’t that where the PPS-43 burp guns were developed and locally made?
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:48:35 PM PDT
by
M1903A1
("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
To: dfwgator
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:48:40 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
To: C19fan
It’s so often overlooked or understated, but the Russians lost 9 million soldiers and 20 million civilians during WWII — an incredible loss of life.
To: Skywise
“But how does this help black lives matter?”
Perhaps to serve as a cautionary tale about when white people get angry?
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:58:54 PM PDT
by
hanamizu
To: Ancient Man
Which was part of the reason Britain and the US were able to move in on Germany as easy as they did.
Hitler has seriously drained his troops by fighting the Russians.
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posted on
06/30/2020 12:59:15 PM PDT
by
Skywise
To: Ancient Man
Very hard to wrap my mind around the Red Army had more KIA in say a single battle or campaign than the US lost the entire war.
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posted on
06/30/2020 1:00:06 PM PDT
by
C19fan
To: C19fan
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posted on
06/30/2020 1:32:45 PM PDT
by
Dr.Deth
To: Skywise
Nice try. The weather and lack of supplies defeated the Nazis on the eastern front.
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posted on
06/30/2020 1:44:31 PM PDT
by
rrrod
(6)
To: rrrod
Nice try. The weather and lack of supplies defeated the Nazis on the eastern front. As well as plenty of supplies from the Brits and Americans, even Stalin said they never would have won without them.
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posted on
06/30/2020 1:46:36 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: Ancient Man
Its so often overlooked or understated, but the Russians lost 9 million soldiers and 20 million civilians during WWII an incredible loss of life. Which is exactly how Stalin wanted it, gave him a better bargaining chip at Yalta.
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posted on
06/30/2020 1:47:32 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: Skywise
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posted on
06/30/2020 1:53:52 PM PDT
by
hinckley buzzard
(Power is More often surrendered than seized.)
To: C19fan
Three million casualties? Good.
There is simply no rooting interest when it comes to Nazis versus Communists.
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posted on
06/30/2020 2:47:45 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: Ancient Man
Not nearly enough. Those jerks went on to turn the world upside down for another 40 years.
Red China, Korea, Cuba, SE Asia, Angola, Central America, etc.
All terrorized, and in many cases subjugated, by Soviet jackboots.
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posted on
06/30/2020 2:51:37 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: Ancient Man
“Its so often overlooked or understated, but the Russians lost 9 million soldiers and 20 million civilians during WWII an incredible loss.”
And that was on top of maybe 4M deaths in WW1, 15M in Russian Civil War through 1922, 6M in the Holodomor in Ukraine, the Donbas, and Volga River basin in the ‘30s.
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posted on
06/30/2020 2:55:51 PM PDT
by
bravo whiskey
(Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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