Posted on 06/18/2020 6:22:29 AM PDT by familyop
...facing several charges, including child abuse and first-degree murder...the couple made him drink the water because his urine was dark. The county coroner's office determined the boy died of forced water intoxication after he was told to drink four 24-ounce (.7-litre) bottles of water over four hours...Ryan Sabin, Zachary's father and a sergeant based at Fort Carson, called 911 after he found the boy in his bed with foam coming from his mouth and blood on his bed.
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What does MOS mean?
MOS - Military Occupational Specialty
MOS - Military Occupation Specialty
Army speak for your job. An Infantryman is an 11B, a combat medic is a 68W, etc.
As different MOSes have different demands and different attrition rates, there are different rates of promotion. Typically, the Dept of Army will determine the number of E-5 and higher enlisted ranks are needed (call it X). From that number you subtract the number that are already in service (Y) to get the number of promotions for that MOS (Z) .... X - Y = Z
The Army then looks at it’s list of those eligible for promotion and ranks them by points. It promotes from top down till it either meets the Z requirement or runs out of eligible candidates for promotion.
This is of course an oversimplification, but it is the basic pattern.
Army infantry soldiers, combat engineers, etc., are trained to drink until urine is clear. That was in a manual during the late ‘80s and early ‘90s. Forced drinking in hot weather was common, too. At times, when in initial training in temperatures over 100 degrees Fahrenheit (don’t recall the wet bulb at the time, but it was high), each man in my unit was forced to drink four quarts of hot canteen water per hour.
No, the kids mentioned in the news story weren’t in the Army, but that’s beside the point. Their father was doing was he was taught to do for the boys health, correct or incorrect. Chances are that a doctor had also told him and/or his wife to make sure that the boy drank plenty of water every day, if he had a urological problem.
Water: How much should you drink every day?
Mayo Clinic
https://www.mayoclinic.org/water/art-20044256
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So how much fluid does the average, healthy adult living in a temperate climate need? The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is:
About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids for men
About 11.5 cups (2.7 liters) of fluids a day for women
BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
I wasnt a dog faced pony soldier like you. I . sagent means a lower case NCO to me.
I guess in the army everybody is a sargent. Sargent, sargent, sargent, sargent . pretty low vocabulary count if you ask me. sargent!!
The father, a military man stationed at Ft Carson, should have taken his son to doctors at Evans Army Community Hospital, and not forced the kid to drink any certain amount of water.
Why can’t we put these people to death?
“This does not seem to me like a lot of water over 4 hours. His system should have been able to handle it”
Not true at all. It is not the ounces, which was about 96 ounces all together, it is the short span of time - just four hours. A daily amount for a grown man OVER 24 HOURS might be about 100 ounces. 96 ounces in just four hours, for an 11 year old, is like poisoning - the system cannot handle it.
I wasnt a dog faced pony soldier like you. I . sagent means a lower case NCO to me.
Based on what you written so far, it's hard to believe you were ever in the military.
I guess in the army everybody is a sargent. Sargent, sargent, sargent, sargent . pretty low vocabulary count if you ask me. sargent!!
Sergeant.
He had dark urine, then perhaps something was already too far gone to handle it. I think they were trying to counter kidney problems, maybe wanted to avoid doctor. But sadly, should not have!
Was a sergeant @ 21 and was still a sergeant when I retired @ 43... Sergeant is a title...
“My sons could chug 0.7 liters no problem at that age...they would be performing at their peak after drinking it...and definitely they would not die.”
It was not .7 liters. It was .7 liters times four in only four hours. That’s about what would be normal for a grown man IN 24 HOURS, about six times the length of time the kid’s system had to process the 96 ounces he was forced to drink.
If your sons drank 96 ounces in four hours I imagine they would have at least been hospitalized, not “performing at their peak”.
It is not the ounces, it is amount of ounces over what period of time. Your body needs salt, just not too much, and not too little. Water flushes salt from the system. Over a normal amount and speed of water intake too much salt is not flushed from the system. When excessive water consumption over a short time happens, an excessive amount of salt is flushed from the system, depleting the balance of electrolytes in the blood and cells in the body begin to swell (cells trying to NOT recycle fluids, just keep them, to hold onto remaining salt).
Hereditary urinary problem. There you go. Wondering if it’s really water poisoning, or really because his compromised system couldn’t take it.
And the woman was stepmother, not mother. Father has a screwgie face.
Horrible all around.
I didn’t see the times 4. My bad. But one is no problem.
BTW what’s up with the comment on women’s studies?
There’s no way that much water would kill anyone. There has to be more to the story. They write the story like the parents of course are the bad guys. Always.
“So how much fluid does the average, healthy adult living in a temperate climate need? The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is:” .....”About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids for men.....”About 11.5 cups (2.7 liters) of fluids a day for women”
Those figures are for a whole day, for an adult, not for just four hours for a child. The child was forced to drink nearly a man’s daily water requirement in just four hours, one sixth of a day.
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