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Lara Logan doesn't care for Mattis either...
Thread Reader ^ | 6/3/2020 | Lara Logan

Posted on 06/05/2020 2:14:03 PM PDT by Beave Meister

Hearing what Gen “Mad Dog” Mattis had to say today, I am reminded of something I learned about Trump’s pick for Sec Def during the transition, as the President-elect was about to take the oath of office. Several sources inside the transition team confirmed...

They were shocked by who Mattis wanted as his number 2 - he was pushing for Michelle Flournoy, the same person HRC had reportedly picked to lead DOD in her Administration, acc to sources/articles at the time, such as one Politico published in Nov 2016. They put it this way:

“THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION - HILLARY CLINTON’S HISTORY-MAKING DEFENSE SECRETARY IN WAITING”.

Always wondered why Mattis would want someone like that at his side? Seems unlikely she would have been loyal to the President she would have served - was he?

Men like him knew Gen Mike Flynn was loyal to the US not Russia, yet they said nothing? As Sec Def, Mattis would have had access to all intelligence. What happened to that military code of honor in Flynn’s case? What about his Commander-in-Chief? He was silent then - but not now.

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One of my best friends who I either speak to or text to almost every day, and who I've known since high school is a retired Colonel from Delta Force. He had this to say about Mattis yesterday: "I think I told you guys about Mattis and Kelly when they first came on board--prototypes of the moniker 'jarhead'. I know him personally, guided his guys into both Afganistan and Iraq but you won't read that he had to be handheld by D guys in his books. He’s always been all about himself--ask any marine that worked for him--his eye bags and conflicted rants reveal a troubled personal life, says his only hobby is reading about history and has lived w his brother his whole life--Kelly is just as bad—total Rino’s—just sit back and ask yourself how it’s even possible to blame trump for anything that just happened—you now see law-abiding black people calling BS on BLM, and antifa is as close to a communist insurrection aided by Dems and media as anyone could imagine—and now mattis thinks it’s a good time to criticize trump? If your going to speak up speak up for the rights of innocent people who lost their lives and livelihoods—instead he critiques trump—what bothers them most is that America is already bouncing back, the stock market is the closest thing to an omen of the future—Dems, media, and rino’s like him see it and they get even more desperate—sry boys—freedom always wins.

He made-up his own nicknames--who does that? before We guided his guys into Iraq I told him about the complexity of identifying the enemy from civilians and he said 'we'll sort em out after we kill em' and I said 'I wouldn't recommend that technique' he laughed and said 'that's cause your not a marine' -- afterword my SGM said 'that guy is f@#ked up' and that was the first time I started worrying about how we were prosecuting the war. We we should never have brought in all the conventional forces, we were successful in A because we used Afghans--unfortunately Generals like him didn't like that and wanted to create their 'Patton' moments in history

1 posted on 06/05/2020 2:14:03 PM PDT by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

Trump surprisingly has made some pretty bad personnel choices.


2 posted on 06/05/2020 2:17:30 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Professional

Agreed, and he has paid the price for almost every one.


3 posted on 06/05/2020 2:19:17 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli....)
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To: Professional

Agree


4 posted on 06/05/2020 2:19:17 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Professional

Maybe, but I think Trump thought they would be patriots first. It’s a hard lesson to learn that people this high-up in the federal government would sell out, or destroy, their own country to get their way.


5 posted on 06/05/2020 2:19:54 PM PDT by JoSixChip
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To: Beave Meister

Never liked “Tame Dog” Mattis. Always thought he was out of his element at the pentagon and that he thought he was secretary of state trying to usurp Trump’s foreign policy jurisdiction.


6 posted on 06/05/2020 2:23:06 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: JoSixChip

I love Trump, but this is showing why past political leadership is good for the resume regarding POTUS. Politics isn’t the business world, and vice versa.

Trump had no idea how much he was up against, and though he recognized the Swamp, in reality, it’s a damn Ocean.


7 posted on 06/05/2020 2:24:24 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Beave Meister

For all his supposed experience, Mattis wasn’t too bright when he allowed Omarosa Manigault to record their conversation in the White House. Security breach, and he let it happen.


8 posted on 06/05/2020 2:24:55 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Beave Meister

Never trust a general with a huge P.R. department.

I didn’t trust Mattis as soon as I figured out what self-aggrandizing glory hound he was, constantly using underlings and lackies to push out his bogus “Mad Dog” legend.


9 posted on 06/05/2020 2:26:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Professional

I don’t there’s much for choices. During 8 years of fundamental transformation, Obama evidently cleaned house.

Meanwhile Trump still has unfilled positions because he went from the Russia bs to impeachment. You can blame repubs for that to some extent. McConnell said no, you can’t get anyone through right now. Repubs were around while Obama was prez and they didn’t do squat.


10 posted on 06/05/2020 2:26:16 PM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: Professional; All

Yes. He trusts people at their word, and therefore fails to have them vetted. He should have learned by now that this is not a business environment. This is back-stabbing, agenda-driven, politics.


11 posted on 06/05/2020 2:27:12 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Beave Meister

The fromer military officers I know that crossed paths with Mattis say - Mattis is all about Mattis. His brand is all he cares about.


12 posted on 06/05/2020 2:27:44 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Professional

Ironically, one thing I actually believed from his reality show that he was good at picking people. He is not.


13 posted on 06/05/2020 2:30:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Beave Meister

Maybe he was banging her on the side.


14 posted on 06/05/2020 2:31:01 PM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: JoSixChip
I agree with you. I think he intended to make concessions to the entrenched bureaucrats in an attempt to maintain continuity. I am sure that he, knowing what he knows now, would have cleaned house. If Trump is re-elected, I imagine that every cockroach and swamp creature will be terminated.

Of course, this will trigger another round of impeachment...

15 posted on 06/05/2020 2:31:51 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Professional

President Trump is a Washington outsider. In an interview a couple of weeks ago, in response to a question about having to fire so many of his picks, he said that he before he was elected president he had only been to Washington 17 times.

I’d like to see any other outsider do a better job instead of criticize as if it’s easy.


16 posted on 06/05/2020 2:35:17 PM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: Professional

Yes, and as Morton Blackwell always would remind us, personnel is policy.


17 posted on 06/05/2020 2:39:41 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Cobra64

He needs a better vetting process.

Pence is an old government hand. I’m surprised he didn’t warn the president about this.


18 posted on 06/05/2020 2:41:43 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Pence ain’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. He’s an ass-kissing, empty-suit, politician.


19 posted on 06/05/2020 2:45:01 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Professional

What has amazed me about Trump is he seemed, for a VERY long time, how evil and demented the Democrats and the professional bureaucracy is...how self-serving and self-enriching and criminally deviant they are right down to their soul-less cores. How on Earth could he have not understood this? Practically everyone here knows it, it’s in plain sight for anyone who looks. Trump didn’t understand this coming in, how he didn’t I’ll never understand.

I think he was insulated by his massive wealth...and thought it was all just politics because he had rubbed elbows with so many of them socially for decades...politicians always kiss the ass, wink and nod with the Uber-wealthy. It’s how they grift. But he didn’t grasp the evil down deep in them. And that is the root of his many poor personnel choices, I think. He took advice...from THEM, them who wanted to kill him as quickly and neatly as possible.

I guess all we can be glad for is that he surely KNOWS now. But his first term was only a shadow of what it could have been had he understood their rotted, fetid souls going in.


20 posted on 06/05/2020 2:45:48 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (It's the corruption, stupid)
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