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World's largest electric plane takes 28-minute first flight
UPI ^ | May 29, 2020 / 1:38 PM | By Ben Hooper

Posted on 06/04/2020 9:43:01 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: BobL

“Which ‘powered aircraft’ go 5000 miles on batteries...”

None, that’s that point.

“And why the obscenities?”

No obscenity, just an abbreviation. If you’re old enough to know what that abbreviation means, then it can’t do you any harm.


101 posted on 06/04/2020 12:32:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ByteMercenary

Probably so. But if they want to spend their money developing it I’m all for it. That’s the American way.


102 posted on 06/04/2020 12:33:07 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Boogieman

Yea, I think I confused you with some the Leftists posting here. Sorry.


103 posted on 06/04/2020 12:37:22 PM PDT by BobL
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To: TexasGator

“Jet fuel burned off at a rate of $200 per hour versus $15 for electric.

Also compare maintenance costs! Not to mention extra training and operating overhead required of. the pilot.”

Need to factor in the initial cost of the batteries Which isn’t cheap.
Also have to figure in battery replacement costs as well as disposing of old batteries. Disposal can’t be cheap. That $15/hr fuel cost suddenly isn’t $15/hr anymore when the costs from beginning to end are factored in.

Airports have fighting jet fuel fires down to a science.
If a jet is coming in for a controlled crashed landing they dump excess fuel beforehand. How do they handle that battery bank that is a dead weight.
What about the cost of equipment and training for ground crews that now will have electrical fires to fight?
Such equipment, training, certification and re-certification can’t be cheap.
Throw in the higher insurance costs and the airports are going to have to charge more to airlines to allow E-planes to use the airport. That $15/hr cost takes another hit.


104 posted on 06/04/2020 12:38:55 PM PDT by oldvirginian (The average "progressive" makes Jethro Bodean look like Albert Einstein)
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To: G Larry

glide ratio 0:1.........................


105 posted on 06/04/2020 1:04:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Always trust God............but wash your hands......................)
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To: oldvirginian
the airports are going to have to charge more to airlines to allow E-planes to use the airport.

Don't forget taxes. Fuels derived from petroleum are taxed by all levels of government. They will certainly add a surcharge/tax to make that up, and then some.

106 posted on 06/04/2020 1:18:31 PM PDT by SKI NOW
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To: Moonman62

“They claim a 100 mile range. I wonder if that includes a reserve”

Yeah like an internal combustion engine.


107 posted on 06/04/2020 2:02:16 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: SKI NOW

Can’t believe I left the government out!
Yeah the government will enact some fees. Never expect the government to let a taxable opportunity go to waste.


108 posted on 06/04/2020 3:29:54 PM PDT by oldvirginian (The average "progressive" makes Jethro Bodean look like Albert Einstein)
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To: oldvirginian

“Need to factor in the initial cost of the batteries Which isn’t cheap.”

Entire conversion cost is less than one TBO.


109 posted on 06/04/2020 3:52:53 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: oldvirginian

“If a jet is coming in for a controlled crashed landing they dump excess fuel beforehand. How do they handle that battery bank that is a dead weight.”

The Caravan has no capability to dump fuel. A Caravan crashing with 300 gallons of jet fuel would be the bigger hazars.


110 posted on 06/04/2020 3:55:23 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Nailbiter

ping


111 posted on 06/04/2020 4:07:45 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: TexasGator

“Entire conversion cost is less than one TBO.”

So the cost of extracting the rare earth minerals from the ground, cleaning up the mess caused by the extraction, refining the minerals into useable purity, the cleanup from that, making the batteries, transporting the batteries, disposing of old batteries at end of life is cheaper?
Who woulda thunk it.


112 posted on 06/04/2020 4:40:00 PM PDT by oldvirginian (The average "progressive" makes Jethro Bodean look like Albert Einstein)
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To: oldvirginian

“So the cost of extracting the rare earth minerals from the ground, cleaning up the mess caused by the extraction, refining the minerals into useable purity, the cleanup from that, making the batteries, transporting the batteries, disposing of old batteries at end of life is cheaper?
Who woulda thunk it.”

MagniX.

Batteries are recycled. You get money back when you turn one in.


113 posted on 06/04/2020 4:44:03 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: oldvirginian

“So the cost of extracting the rare earth minerals from the ground, cleaning up the mess caused by the extraction”

Most is a byproduct of copper mines.


114 posted on 06/04/2020 4:45:47 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

How much does the jet fuel weigh as it is expended? How much do the batteries weigh as they are discharged?

A plane flies further and higher as it gets lighter by burning fuel. The weight stays the same with batteries.


115 posted on 06/05/2020 12:58:10 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Red Badger
Once airborne superchargers are deployed, all planes will be electric.


116 posted on 06/05/2020 1:06:24 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (In blue cities, you will be arrested for opening a business, but not for looting one.)
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To: DMZFrank

A reply and a duplicate FRmail! I am honored!


117 posted on 06/05/2020 9:45:00 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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