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To: livius

“that’s the reason the other cops didn’t intervene: they were scared of him, and they knew they’d get no support from above.”

On the longer video of the incident, one of the other cops (Lane?) noted the victim’s distress and can be heard suggesting he be turned on his side to help him breathe.
Chauvin can be heard saying, ‘Nah, he stays right here like this.’

I suspect this may factor into why it’s taking so long to charge the other officers.
Lesser charges, perhaps even exoneration of 1 of them-— how is it even possible to announce that right now? Or ever in the future?
Anything less than M1 will send the ferals over the edge.


13 posted on 06/02/2020 6:14:43 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: mumblypeg
The authorities are in a bind. There was a case awhile back in another Minneapolis / St. Paul suburb. A guy got pulled over for a routine traffic stop, and told the officer, "I have a valid conceal carry permit." He reached for the glove compartment to get it, and the officer killed him on the spot.

Which was rather inconsiderate, considering the guy's girlfriend and kid were in the car.

So that cop was charge with murder 1 and he walked.

And then there's Mohammed Noor. Somali cop hired for outreach to the Somali community by a (literal, not insult) lesbian police chief.

There was a call from one of the high-end neighborhoods downtown by one of the lakes, from a woman reporting what sounded like a rape in progress.

She came down in her pajamas to meet the police cruiser.

In it was a rookie cop and the Somali (nobody else wanted to patrol with him, he was that bad, so the rookie got stuck with it.)

Noor fired his service weapon from INSIDE the police cruiser without warning, past his partner in the other seat, and hit the woman in the stomach, IIRC. She died later.

It took 8 or 9 MONTHS even to *arrest* him. And all kinds of unspeakable lies and spin about she had hit the police car without warning, making a loud noise which frightened the officer and made him believe they were under attack, yada yada.

He's now serving 12 1/2 years.

SO now, we have a case where a cop with (I've read as few as 10 and up to 17 or 18) prior complaints for excessive force, holds his knee on the neck of a guy on the ground in handcuffs.

The police start up their spin machine, like Harrison Ford on the Death Star ("negative, very dangerous situation here")...like the guy was a prior violent felon, was a danger to himself and others, violently resisting arrest...

And then the videos come out.

One is a store video of the guy sitting against the wall of a local store, cuffed with his hands behind his back, and the officers cordially but firmly raising him to his feet and walking him to the police cruiser.

And another video, uncut, unedited, 9 minutes long uninterrupted, taken by a bystander 6 feet away.

Mr. Kneecap has his knee on the guy's neck, while he's in cuffs and lying on his stomach on the ground, the whole time.

He keeps the knee there when the guy says he can't breathe, when he passes out, when a bystander self-identifies as a first responder and begs the cop to get off him and check for a pulse...

and for two solid minutes (on video, not an exaggeration) AFTER HIS FELLOW COP HOLDING THE GUY DOWN, TELLS MR. KNEECAP HE DOESN'T HAVE A PULSE.

On video from 6 feet away. With other live (white) witnesses.

That's not internet rumor. That's from the Probable Cause document charging the now-ex-policeman, whose bond has been set at $500,000.

Andrew McCarthy of National Review (former US prosecutor in SDNY) says the charge is right but they took too long to arrest, and that's what led to the riots.

And Rudy Guiliani (took out the Mob in NYC) said on TV they should go for murder 1.

For some reason, the bootlickers think it's a travesty of justice to charge the cop with Murder 3 (in Minnesota it requires "Depraved Indifference" not intent) and Manslaughter.

I think it'd be better to go for the sure conviction instead of risking letting him walk.

18 posted on 06/02/2020 6:35:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: mumblypeg

Here’s a transcript of the officers joking as the man lay on the ground dying:

“You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me!”

After Timpa fell unconscious, the officers who had him in handcuffs assumed he was asleep and didn’t confirm that he was breathing or feel for a pulse.

As precious minutes passed, the officers laughed and joked about waking Timpa up for school and making him waffles for breakfast.

Body camera footage obtained Tuesday by The Dallas Morning News shows first responders waited at least four minutes after Timpa became unresponsive to begin CPR. His nose was buried in the grass while officers claimed to hear him snoring — apparently unaware that the unarmed man was drawing his last breaths.

The officers pinned his handcuffed arms behind his back for nearly 14 minutes and zip-tied his legs together. By the time he was loaded onto a gurney and put into an ambulance, the 32-year-old was dead.

The News obtained Dallas Police Department body camera footage after a three-year fight for records related to Timpa’s death. A federal judge ruled Monday in favor of a motion by The News and NBC5 to release records from his death, saying “the public has a compelling interest in understanding what truly took place during a fatal exchange between a citizen and law enforcement.”

Timpa called 911 on Aug. 10, 2016, from the parking lot of a Dallas porn store, saying he was afraid and needed help. He told a dispatcher he suffered from schizophrenia and depression and was off his prescription medication. The News first reported Timpa’s death in a 2017 investigation that showed Dallas police refused to say how a man who had called 911 for help ended up dead.

...He had already been handcuffed by a private security guard before police arrived. He never threatens to hurt or kill the police.

The footage also shows the officers mocking Timpa as he struggled to live. Shortly after one officer ridicules Timpa’s repeated cries for help, an officer notes that he appears to be “out cold.”

They joke that he’s merely asleep and try to wake him: “It’s time for school. Wake up!”

One officer mimics a teen saying: “I don’t want to go to school! Five more minutes, Mom!”

They joke about buying him new shoes for the first day of school and making him a special breakfast, laughing loudly.

...Timpa died within 20 minutes of police arriving, and at least 15 minutes before an ambulance eventually transported his body to Parkland hospital.

As the officers and paramedics struggle to load Timpa’s lifeless body onto the gurney, they begin to panic, seeing his glassy, open eyes and blades of grass stuck to his mouth.

Tony Timpa died in August 2016 at age 32. His family has fought since then to find answers in his death.
Tony Timpa died in August 2016 at age 32. His family has fought since then to find answers in his death.
One of the officers asks: “He didn’t just die down there, did he?”

An autopsy ruled Timpa’s cause of death was a homicide, sudden cardiac death due to “the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint.”

The city of Dallas and Dallas County officials had fought since September 2016 to prevent public release of the records, arguing it could interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation. Officials then said the records could not be released because a criminal case against three of the police officers never made it to trial.

... in March, Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot dismissed the charges.

...In the video, Dillard pins Timpa to the ground with his knee in his back for more than 13 minutes. Keeping someone face-down and bound at the arms and legs is known as the “prone position,” a method of restraint that is controversial in policing. Several studies have shown it may increase the risk for asphyxiation and sudden death....


Police brutality is no laughing matter but to the Left it is only driven by racism and they don’t give a damn about lynch mobs assaulting white people or cops killing white people in a manner no different than the prone position in which George Floyd died in.

ALL lives matter

Including little babies.


22 posted on 06/02/2020 6:55:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: mumblypeg

Anything less than M1 will send the ferals over the edge.


Yep. And M1 - at least as most places define it - is currently unsupportable.


54 posted on 06/04/2020 8:05:13 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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