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Inside Red Pill, The Weird New Cult For Men Who Don't Understand Women
Business Insider ^ | Sep 15, 2013, 6:06 AM | Dylan Love

Posted on 05/17/2020 12:16:15 PM PDT by Jim W N

"You are hating women because you have the wrong expectations for them. Don't hate someone for something they CANNOT be. Women are, by nature, manipulative, attention-seeking, inconsistent, emotional, and hypergamous. Accept this truth. Once you do, you can game women for what they are ... not what you want them to be."

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: businessstuff; men; mgtow; pua; redpill; women
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

The author is a soy boy.


141 posted on 05/17/2020 3:31:07 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: Luke21

A man going along without a woman is not necessarily because he resents women. Look at the Apostle Paul. He wasn’t gay and wasn’t resentful. He followed what God had for him and declared his life was rich. May we all learn to do that.

In fact scripture says, “It is good for a man not to touch a woman” (1 Corinthians 7:1).

Resentment, bitterness, and defeat come in when we refuse to let the Lord lead and guide us.


142 posted on 05/17/2020 3:31:16 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

I think that this is about recognizing that Feminism is misanthropic. But, worse its ambivalent. No matter how you respond you get hurt. And, worse that what seemed like a good time can end up years later being characterized in a life destroying way without you having any means of resisting.

Most forget that Feminism was designed by Communists as a “Liberation ideology” and that its intention was to destroy our society. No one covers this better than David Horowitz in his own biography as he promoted and then was caught by the direct effects of this pernicious ideology as a Communist leader and publisher in the 1960’s.

At its very core, Feminism disparages femininity. It holds of various aspects of masculine identity as preferable then asserts that the society and its institutions are responsible for the oppression of the feminine identity. Its an insane circle, but very effective.

Complicating this is the fact that “the feminine identity” is not at all a unified thing. Rather there are two very large subgroups and two smaller subgroups that are often completely missed. And, worse, these subgroups are often very much at odds about what “rules” they want. For now, we will just concentrate on two of these, Pollyanna and the Church Ladies.

The Church Ladies (Even if they have never seen the inside of a Church) come in differing types too.. but for the most part they value STABILITY and STATUS QUO even if that situation sucks. Their behavior varies from the now famous KARENS to the meek Librarian types. But, you can also assign the entire group the lable of SJW - Social Justice Warriors. They often don’t care what the rules are, but you better follow them. When Feminism was first proposed, these ladies fought it with fervor. (More than 50% of all women belong in this camp)(But more than 43% if Men live here too.)

Now Pollyanna has a dark side when she grows up. She loves experiences and thrills and why can’t I do this! AND Fame. Or, She likes power and control and respect. But, she is annoyed by restrictions on her sexuality or the idea that there are consequences. (Does this seem split? Yes.. because there are real differences in this subgroup that go way beyond what I want to discuss here) But, the Women’s Liberation aspect and the free sexuality aspect of the 70’s and even 80’s was all about the rise of this “ideal” in the minds of women. It served the interests of the women who loved this freedom and wanted it to last forever. The only problem is that this subgroup is only about 26% of the population so, politically this group has to persuade the Church Ladies to get anything they want. (The entire plot of the movie Pollyanna.)

Now, the Pollyanna group is also the largest group of ladies who want to be Performers and entertainers. So, the age of Sexual Liberation was greeted by the men of the Entertainment industry with a huge, HELL YEA! And, by this vehicle, we had 30+ years of the entertainment industry brain washing American and World society about Feminism as an Ultimate good. Other societies looked at this flow of evil and pointed at it and said.. Ug.. Satan. Not my friends, but just because they are “evil” too.. doesn’t mean they were wrong.

But, the establishment in American society that raising a family is not the purpose of every life, men and women, lead to massive numbers of women rejecting their own special role in this life. Instead, they were offered the goals of fame, power and respect that drove American men to workaholism in post WWII society as their life’s goals. Thank you BF Skinner and Operant Conditioning. Hertzberg really dialed this up with his recognition of what motivates people (Achievement and Recognition) two sides of the same coin. And, in drips and drabs, the Church Ladies started buying it. Their male counterparts were already ALL IN.

So through the 00’s and 10’s the majority of women switched sides, and Pollyanna was pushed out on her ASS. She is not shamed as such but instead used as a foil to destroy Men-in-Power so they can be replaced by Women-in- Power. And, the male quality of life numbers have been falling precipitously. This aspect of Feminism, “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” is the core of this issue as the concept of a man’s “role” in society is erased. But, instead, as men keep volunteering to be destroyed they begin to wonder, is the game rigged? And, yes it is. “Me Too..” is the natural consequence of the Church Ladies adopting feminism. It nicely makes men terrified of Pollyanna and her tendency to “change her mind and knife you in the back” while the KARENs get real power. And you get Governor Whitmer..

RedPill is an understandable reaction, but it is a fail. Not for the reasons shared in this article though. It may be a necessary step going forward, but the old generalizations of what is the man’s role and what is the woman’s role need to be understood in the face of these underlying group dynamics and a social model needs to rise that allows the Church Ladies to both be happy and raise their children too. You do this and the world with right itself around this stability point, or else the Church Ladies will be at your door.


143 posted on 05/17/2020 3:31:45 PM PDT by dalight
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To: Secret Agent Man

I can tell you this...

- I don’t want a woman who doesn’t want a man and/or is in competition with him.

- I don’t want a woman who doesn’t honor and love a man for his strength and leadership.

And if that means going it without a woman, well, God bless me. :)


144 posted on 05/17/2020 3:34:38 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: carriage_hill

“hypergamous”

I take it that the “gam” in there doesn’t refer to legs.


145 posted on 05/17/2020 3:41:23 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: Jim W N

one phone call

family court totally biased

nope, avoidance is best


146 posted on 05/17/2020 3:48:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jim W N

Most of these guys are happy they figured out certain things and decide they’re better off solo.

if women can say they dont need men and society celebrates them, men ought to be viewed the same way.

funny how they aren’t though.


147 posted on 05/17/2020 3:51:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Luke21

And this is why some men are saying no thanks.

It’s hardly a big deal and men deciding to be single doesn’t deserve the attempted shaming occurring by society.


148 posted on 05/17/2020 3:54:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PLMerite

I think not, Heh.


149 posted on 05/17/2020 4:01:08 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: dalight
Feminism was designed by Communists as a “Liberation ideology” and that its intention was to destroy our society.

IOW, Satanically inspired. Many women today, like Eve, take the apple from the devil, and many men, like Adam, go along with it.

I think lot of this is analyzing the fallen nature of the flesh which is like analyzing a bottomless pit.

The answer of course is redemption by Christ - the way out of the bottomless pit. A redeemed woman to be godly and Spirit-led probably has a lot of work ahead of her.

150 posted on 05/17/2020 4:02:54 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What I don’t understand is these men that kow tow to manipulative abusive women and like it.


151 posted on 05/17/2020 4:04:40 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Jim W N
The answer of course is redemption by Christ - the way out of the bottomless pit. A redeemed woman to be godly and Spirit-led probably has a lot of work ahead of her.

This is, of course, the answer.

A Godly woman, trusting Christ, does have a lot of work ahead of her. She will have to constantly ask for God's help in acknowledging His authority and submitting to His will, in fighting her own fallen human nature, in asking God for protection from fallen men around her who have not submitted to His will.

152 posted on 05/17/2020 4:08:41 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Jim W N

MGTOW doesn’t read like St. Paul. I don’t care what they do, but to me, that’s apples and oranges.


153 posted on 05/17/2020 4:09:50 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Secret Agent Man

These fellows have decided that continual rejection and subjugation isn’t worth it. I fully understand. I’m glad I’m old. This garbage started with Anita Hill and hasn’t gotten any better.


154 posted on 05/17/2020 4:11:31 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21

Paul went without a woman. He was one of the happiest, most successful men who ever lived. A man can do it successfully. That’s all I’m talking about. Not apples and oranges.


155 posted on 05/17/2020 4:18:50 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

Females DO get away with things by virtue of being Female....up to a certain age. Then they do not.

“the Wall” is very real....though its not what they describe (ie a woman thinking she is more attractive and therefore can get away with more than she actually is and therefore actually can get away with). The Wall is when the balance of power which females indisputably held from the time they were teenagers flips. Its not so much a state of mind as a period of time.....generally late 20s to 30. After that point, men usually aren’t pursuing her anymore and she is the one who needs to pursue them if she’s ever to settle down and have a family.


156 posted on 05/17/2020 4:21:30 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Jim W N

“The basis of this philosophy, which underpins almost all conversations in his community, is that females get away with things by virtue of being female.”

LOL. They just figured that out??


157 posted on 05/17/2020 4:22:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Jim W N

“IOW, Satanically inspired. Many women today, like Eve, take the apple from the devil, and many men, like Adam, go along with it.”

Argg. Way to trivialize my post.


158 posted on 05/17/2020 4:22:15 PM PDT by dalight
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To: Jim W N

They aren’t doing it for holiness. They advertise sex dolls on their podcasts.


159 posted on 05/17/2020 4:25:06 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: a fool in paradise
50+ years of feminism telling women that men are completely a irrelevant “they are as necessary as a bicycle is to a fish” = absolutely worthless.

Ok, it's a funny line, but I've always been amused that Gloria Steinem never seemed to get called on it. Gloria didn't need men financially, but she surely ran through them by the bushel. She became a cultural icon of the sexual revolution because she was bright, attractive, and worked overtime to make promiscuity fashionable. She was the exception to the rule that feminists are plug-ugly. That made her useful to the cultural revolutionaries. But live without men? Hahahahahahaha.

160 posted on 05/17/2020 4:27:20 PM PDT by sphinx
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