Flubros and Flubras! Day 57 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)

www.freerepublic.com ^ | 15 May 2020 | Impimp

[impimp]

It’s just the flu, bro.

After seeing Fauci get questioned by Rand Paul it is clear that Fauci is well-spoken and intelligent. He also is very educated and experienced. For him to advise on public health policy as poorly as he has means that he is 1. evil, and/or 2. A Democrat stooge. I am glad Trump is downplaying his role and I look forward to his “retirement” in November.

It’s useful to look at how CV has played out in Italy, South Korea, Spain, and other countries that seem to be further along with disease’s progression. This CV is on the way out and any talk of second waves is overstated.

Basically the R0 for this must be overstated, probably by the same scientists who said 2.2 Million will die in the US, and this leads to a lower threshold needed for herd immunity. R0 is the average of how many people catch the virus from a single infected person, assuming everyone is susceptible. The effective R goes down as the disease spreads. Herd immunity threshold = 1-1/R0. Initially scientists said 60% of the population need immunity for this disease to go away, but we are seeing a rapid decline of CV in NYC and other places with only 20% possessing antibodies.

Looking forward to Governor Abbott opening more of Texas on Monday. When a larger state like Texas opens up and everything is OK it puts tremendous pressure on those left wing governors.

[Vermont Lt]

The SEER is 3.5 months. We’ve just hit a year and so far our scans are NED. So...we are good for another three months. Sucks living with sword hanging over your head though.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

I could be convinced by your account but, I've read plenty of ER novels in my time and can provide you a great many, detailed accounts for gang-land drive by shootings. Now, given my urban background (which you may or may nor believe) you might believe me.
It is the way of the internet.
The Lt. talks as if (1) he knows us personally and, (2) knows our motives and intents and (3) knows what is best for us. All from this brief internet forum encounter.
Instead of "learning" from us concerning our backgrounds, our intents, our motives, the Lt. steps in, informs us of our expected intent (based on his opinion of what people OUGHT to do) and then takes the discussion to incendiary levels when confronted with an opposite opinion...from a single poster.

I am reminded of...

[Vermont Lt]

Except I am not in Vermont.

Don’t get me wrong...I look forward to getting in the truck and driving cross country again. But, its going to be a while before that is likely to happen—a few nights in a tent are OK, but I like my little hotels.

In general though, I honestly do not understand the big deal about the masks. In 1918 it was found that in some of the worst hit areas, cases dropped 90% literally in days because masks were required.

What more proof do you need? I know, you will point to study after study saying they are not perfect. But 90% effective on me, and 90% effective on you...and the combined total is pretty effective.

The last place I go is on a plane. Not just recently—but after years of flying a couple times a week and getting every little cold all winter long I decided to avoid it as often as possible. I like driving a lot better.

[kosciusko51]

Your assessment is clearly proven in post #74.

[cweese]

"This lockdown is complete BS."

It is. The fact that they keep extending it in many places countrywide is proof that this is about nothing more than their perceived power over us.

[MayflowerMadam]

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3845080/posts?page=15#15

Yup. Kozak is world famous now, thanks to POTUS!

[Vermont Lt]

What I find fun about the flubro thread are a couple of things:

1. The utter arrogance and righteousness is amazing.
2. The first tool you use in communications is insults.
3. The complete lack of any discussion or use of discourse.

You seem to know very little, but you know it with conviction.

And someone will agree with 90% of your point of view...but that 10% makes them a (what have I been called today) a commie, a frenchman, a sardine, a baby, a pussy, and probably a few things I’ve missed.

And these are the same people who were bitching because they did not get their stimulus checks because they don’t use a checking account—they don’t want the government knowing their business.

You cannot make this crap up.

Arrogance, Ignorance, and Paranoia are the key things I’ve seen when working with the demented elderly. It is on display here on FR every single day.

[MayflowerMadam]

I was wondering about Food City. I haven’t been in ours for a while. And we don’t have any Food Lions here. At Walmart the employees must wear masks, but hardly any of the shoppers do.

[saleman]

Dang. Sounds kinda like that number I hear about from time to time in Revelations.

Wonder what the number of the vaccine will be?

[gas_dr]

Fair enough

[Jan_Sobieski]

How does it feel to know that they are counting ALL deaths as Coronavirus deaths (heart attacks, stroke, cancer, alcohol related, etc.)? It’s the Flu Bro!

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

:: The utter arrogance and righteousness is amazing. ::

Seriously, did you think about this before you wrote it?
You know, in light of your very fist response today?
Seriously?

I did not call you a Frenchman.
I called you a cheese eating surrender monkey.
Maybe I could have been less cryptic and called you a “cowering internet dweeb that can’t accept that his ego isn’t agreed to by everyone on the internet.”

But, to make you feel better I’ll say, “You, VermontLT are the owner and King of the internet.”
There.
Feel better?
Don’t spooge on your keyboard, handsy.

[x]

Frank Costanza wanted to call them Flubrassiers and Flumanssieres.

RIP Jerry Stiller.

[tatown]

Honest question. If masks are as effective as you seem to think they are why doesn’t Trump, Pence, Fauci, Birx, Redfield...or anyone else on the Task Force wear them? These folks have access to the very best data on the planet yet they don’t wear them. Does that not even cause you to pause?

[Vermont Lt]

Are you going to work interacting with the public in ANY job that carries any liability? You will be asked to take the shot, or wear gloves and masks.

You think I am kidding. Mark the post. And come back in six months and tell me I am wrong.

The government will make it part of the liability limitation they are passing. And either you take the shot, or you are going to wear a mask at work.

And if you work for a government contractor—you won’t get the mask choice.

Its not a statement of fact, yet. It is a prediction, and since you are a person who understands how the government works—you know that is what they are going to try to do.

I am a “work at home” gig person now—pretty much retired. I did not get the flu shot this year and I am fine. But my wife is sick, so I am doing all of the hand washing and mask wearing, and social distancing that I have to. I do NOT expect you to do that. I am protecting her, and I don’t care if you protect yourself or not. No offense intended.

I am merely saying that the way that our government works they will impose those restrictions on whomever gets their money. It is the seatbelt and helmet laws redeux.

You guys all think you will be excluded. And, as is the case with seatbelts, you will “get away” with it most of the time—but you will get screwed when you get the summons.

We agree on 99% of this stuff. I think as long as the ICUs have beds, we should be open. I think that it will drop in the summer. I think it will come back in the fall. We might disagree on what we should do if the ICUs fill up...but that doesn’t appear to be happening.

I’ve spent a lot of time looking at the 1918-20 flu pandemic. Not for the “numbers” but for the processes and “attitudes” of the time. Corruption, graft, and government overreach was prevalent then as well. And in each of those situations the sins contributed to a larger toll.

All along I’ve cautioned against “counting raindrops”. The deaths on this thing were always going to be low compared to the population—but it is highly contagious and when it hits a factory or group...people will freak out and it gums up the works.

All along I have been cautioning against the thought that “opening” up would put us back on the road to prosperity. Its not. There is nothing in the pipeline in terms of productivity. Companies like Ford, Boeing, General Electric...giants of the last century will not come out of this anywhere near where they were 25 years ago.

If people spent more time thinking about how they are going to survive financially and culturally for the next 5-10 years they would find themselves better off.

My guess—and its only a guess-is a that many a flubro was overinvested in the market—again. This caused them to lose much more than they should have. They trusted what Trump was telling them. Now they are a few years into retirement—or very close to it—and they are on the edge of being able to cut it.

In my opinion, the Flubros would be better served with some discussions about how to prepare for the next couple of years, rather than dealing with a minor inconvenience of wearing a mask to the grocery store today.

[crusty old prospector]

We’ve all got a story. Mine is that my father passed away in January from COPD and pneumonia. He had made it this far before his passing, I am sure that he would have been a Tilt-a-World number. My mother is in memory care and I have not seen her in over two months, except through a window. With Alzheimer’s, there is no way she can comprehend the virus. All she constantly asks is why no one comes to see her. Then she cries and I drive home.

[haffast]

"""Arrogance, Ignorance, and Paranoia are the key things I’ve seen when working with the demented elderly. It is on display here on FR every single day."""
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Think mirror. Ironic.

Thanks for proving your own point about yourself.

It's not about a virus. IT'S ABOUT AN ELECTION.

MSM says 45 doesn't care either. You sound like them. You shouldn't vote for an uncaring bastard like 45 in Nov

So, what do you think of Sessions?

[Vermont Lt]

You obviously haven’t been paying attention—I am one of the flubro’s nemisis. At the very start of this I was one of the people active on the daily Covid threads.

They don’t like me because I ask them pragmatic questions, and try to get them to think.

When I say I don’t care about them, don’t mistake that for “hate.” I don’t hate anyone. Well, there is that one guy...but he is not on FR.

I honestly don’t have an opinion about whether they take care for themselves or their families. I take care of mine and myself.

I would be lying if I did not have flashes where I envisioned them sick with this—but most of them are elderly and ignorant. I dismiss those thoughts because they are not very Christian.

I have to admit some of the posts are funny. Many are mean. But there are a few that I can stomach.

But, no I am not a flu bro. I am more of a flu bro agitator.

[who knows what evil?]

The difference in the two stores was striking...FL clerks smiling and personable; FC clerks grumpy. FC expensive as hell, to boot. Both had toilet paper! :-)

[meyer]

Social distancing doesn’t work. Countries and states that have not “social distanced” have followed the same flu-like trajectory as areas that have, minus the side effect that tyranny presents.

Wearing a mask does nothing, and especially a non-medical mask. Nothing but a false sense of security, and a provocation to constantly touch ones’ face (a no-no among fearbros) in order to readjust the mask.

Who said we don’t care about diseases and the elderly? Only your leftist governors seem to have a problem with that, when they stick known sick people back among a fragile nursing home population so as to up the body count.

What’s been said here often, and elsewhere - you quarantine the sick, protect the highly vulnerable, but you don’t shut down a country over something that is nothing but an over-hyped flu-like disease.

The plandemic is fizzling out. States are re-opening, laying bare the fascist state governors that have used a virus to expand government control, and to trash the constitution.