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White father and son arrested in killing of Ahmaud Arbery, black man gunned down while jogging in Georgia
USA Today | May 7, 2020 | Nicquel Terry Ellis

Posted on 05/07/2020 5:46:59 PM PDT by Trump20162020

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To: dragnet2

Crime is opportunity and depending on the cops to show up and do anything about robbery, burglary, theft, or whatever is futile.

Even if they do apprehend a suspect, chances are he’ll get 6 months or less of street cred, and most charges dropped beforehand. Hence, the long rap sheets.


161 posted on 05/07/2020 10:35:21 PM PDT by sumuam
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To: Meatspace
There is a lot we do not know but we do know the perps are in jail charged with murder

Your comment has some discrepancies. On one hand you say there is a lot we don't know here, then you call those arrested, the suspects, the "Perpetrators".

Funny stuff.

162 posted on 05/07/2020 10:37:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Trump20162020

I’m doing my best to be objective. I watched the video, and read everything I could read on the subject. Without the benefit of other information, these men murdered that guy. Black/White, doesn’t make a difference, except to the media. Could’ve been a white tweaker, results could’ve been the same. They are not uniformed officers, just a couple guys in a truck with guns. To the runner? Maybe, he thought nothing more than brutal racist assholes were chasing him. Ok. Whatcha gonna do? Fight or flight, but they kept after him. So, I don’t blame the guy for the “fight” response. He chose poorly, but I get it. Maybe I would do the same. In any event, the pick up truck guys aren’t the law. I know about the burglaries, but there’s no evidence it was him. You just can’t assume anything without proof. One man is dead. Two should, without the benefit of more information, probably be in jail facing murder charges.


163 posted on 05/07/2020 10:50:35 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: House Atreides

Oh I see


164 posted on 05/07/2020 11:20:35 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.?)
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To: DrewsMum

How do you know that?


165 posted on 05/07/2020 11:22:04 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.?)
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To: House Atreides

I thought what you are saying first time I saw it.

But looking at it again they were both out of view.

I think the gun toter not in the truck bed confronted the runner.


166 posted on 05/08/2020 1:29:09 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DrewsMum

Look, you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Trying to detain the jogger illegally puts them at fault for everything that happens afterward. They are going to fry, as they should. You’re spending a lot of time breathlessly trying to defend two murderers and it’s just silly at this point.


167 posted on 05/08/2020 4:17:33 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: House Atreides

Oh, do you chase people with your shot gun often?


168 posted on 05/08/2020 6:52:42 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“This is the shooting they pretend the Michael Brown shooting was.”

There are some interesting similarities between these two cases. Both involved black men being confronted by armed men for minor infractions. Rather than simply complying by either stopping to answer questions or in Brown’s case not walking down the middle of the street/shoplifting, both reacted aggressively and attacked. In Brown’s case after he failed to get the cop’s gun, he started to run away, then turned and charged the officer who was pointing his gun at him. Arbery didn’t know who was accosting him but Brown certainly did. Both made really bad decisions that resulted in their deaths.


169 posted on 05/08/2020 7:14:26 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Bringing deadly viruses out of caves and into labs doesn't prevent pandemics, it causes them.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

TY.


170 posted on 05/08/2020 7:19:06 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist Communists) "Love you to death".)
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To: RobyOnekanobee

‘What crime it is I am not sure but the truck guys caused it.’

at the very least it is involuntary manslaughter, along with a charge probably of reckless endangerment...a judge will have wide latitude to impose a prison term; if warranted, according to the judge, they could both be looking at ten years, though I doubt they’ll get that much...


171 posted on 05/08/2020 7:32:11 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: ETCM
The story presented was that the two men, father and son, were trying to make a citizens arrest of the man who they claimed was responsible for a string of robberies, one of which they had just witnessed and were chasing the suspect.

What had he just stolen? I don’t see him carrying anything as he jogs down the street. Is there a big screen TV in the pocket of his shorts?

But he charged an armed man and tried to take his gun away. There is no way a jury is going to convict for murder with clear video showing the struggle.

I wonder what the reaction would be if an unarmed white man was accosted by two armed black men and he’d wrestled their weapon away and killed them. I suspect he’d be hailed as a hero.

172 posted on 05/08/2020 7:53:52 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: DrewsMum

McMichael knew Arbery from helping prosecute him some years ago:

https://nypost.com/2020/05/08/father-of-georgia-shooter-had-investigated-ahmaud-arbery/


173 posted on 05/08/2020 8:06:25 AM PDT by jjotto (“Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.”)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
According to the Daily Beast there is video evidence that the jogger was inside of a house in the neighborhood that was under construction.

174 posted on 05/08/2020 8:54:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: inspector

False.


175 posted on 05/08/2020 8:56:51 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

+1


176 posted on 05/08/2020 8:57:40 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: thefactor; DrewsMum
Trying to detain the jogger illegally puts them at fault for everything that happens afterward.

Bull sh*t. And no one was detained. After they pulled up the decedent immediately ran right at the armed person and attempted to physically disarm him.

177 posted on 05/08/2020 10:44:30 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: sport

media pressure


178 posted on 05/08/2020 10:45:09 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: dragnet2
What a lunatic take by you. So two guys you've never seen before pull up to you in a pickup with guns and tell you to stop. Do you stop and say "hey guys what's up?"

But none of that matters because it was a bad stop in the first place. The shooter did NOT witness a crime being committed so there's no citizens arrest. As soon as they confronted Abery and told him to stop it was all bad from there. these guys should get the chair.

Under Georgia code a citizen can use force if they fear for their life, but they cannot create a confrontation themselves and then claim self defense after harming someone. Especially if they did not witness a crime take place.

Please educate yourself.

179 posted on 05/08/2020 10:50:18 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Arbery didn’t know who was accosting him but Brown certainly did. Both made really bad decisions that resulted in their deaths.

If it turns out the decedent was actually a burglar casing the neighborhood, then it would be a easy assumption that he knew exactly why the neighbors were attempting to stop him/question him. And this would also explain why a so called innocent jogger ran 20' right at an armed person and attempted to physically disarm that person.

180 posted on 05/08/2020 10:52:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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