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To: DEPcom
Something very strange and disconcerting is taking place when fit sailors are being taken down by this virus. Ships returning to port due to outbreaks, and unable to perform their mission, while other ships remain at sea to avoid contamination. East coast is inundated while West coast has a much less serious time with this. Personnel lock themselves away in Cheyenne Mountain.

It leaves me thinking there are multiple strains. Maybe one in particular designed to take down the young and healthy military personnel and strategic cities, the other more contagious but less deadly, deployed among civilian populations to create fear, havoc, division, to overwhelm HCS, take out food production and economy in general.

Flubros are plotting and claiming it's all just a hoax. Some are refusing to even wear masks and bragging about it. All perfect timing for this to really ratchet up again, now that it's in every state. If over 65 thousand dead from a disease in only two months doesn't get people's attention, I'm beginning to wonder what will.

We could still lose control, if we're not smart. Everything we've tried to avoid, including collapse of our HCS, food shortages, riots, and complete collapse of our economy can still happen. Now is not the time to lower our guard. Now is the time to evaluate if we need to do more, and to ensure we maintain precautions as America returns to work.

I hope and pray the spike we've both seen isn't the start of a secondary surge, already starting.

436 posted on 05/02/2020 12:24:06 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

right now, it’s the rural and semi-rural folk that need to watch out for themselves. An article from last night said that 1/3 new infections non-urban and 1/4 urban (I guess the rest suburban?) All those city folk on the interstates traveling to their country cabins getting out of town used the same freeway gas stations and fast food places and roadside cafes the locals do. Really no other explanation for it.


438 posted on 05/02/2020 12:49:27 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: amorphous

“Flubros are plotting and claiming it’s all just a hoax. Some are refusing to even wear masks and bragging about it. “

The 65,000 dead is being explain away as overcounted death, Hospitals and Nursing homes are tricking the government out of money.. I see post on facebook with jokes like person gets hits by car cause of death is Coronavirus.

I do not think the number of deaths will get the Just a Flu crowd attention until it hits near home unfortunately. That will happen soon with the States starting to open up. Pray this does not happen.

The States do need to open up because people can not stay at home forever. The States will have to open and shut down as the numbers go and down. People have to learn to adapt and live with Covid-19, unfortunately that means we will loose people. If we leave people in lock down to long that would cause more hoax conspiracy theories and riots. It is a no win situation, because different people act different when stress.

I do think there are multiple strains. Not sure if by creations or mutation. Mutation can go either way more deadly or less deadly. Hoping it mutates to a less deadly / spreadable version then go away.

We are still prepping for complete collapse of economy, we will see if Trump can prevent this. My new camping/portable freezer arrives Tuesday for some extra meat storage. My cousin will teach me how to hunt and clean deer this fall. I have enough cash in reserves to cover my house and land (maybe add more land).


440 posted on 05/02/2020 1:04:36 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: amorphous

“Now is not the time to lower our guard. Now is the time to evaluate if we need to do more, and to ensure we maintain precautions as America returns to work.”

I agree wholeheartedly. While I pray we have a nice long summer break, it is way to early to say we are winning. Flattening the curve is not a victory, it is just slowing things down enough to keep healthcare from being overwhelmed. Once healthcare fails, all bets are off. Maybe HCQ will mitigate this epidemic and if so, that will be a godsend!

I believe there is a better strain and a worse strain.

I also have a theory that where viral loads are the greatest, there are more severe outcomes. I don’t just mean hospitals, but grocery stores, etc. let’s say you have a hospital full of cv patients. A nurse works there who has a heavy viral load. She goes grocery shopping and exhales and a customer catches it. Maybe that is not enough for a severe case. But once you have enough infectious people in that grocery store, the load gets heavier. At some point there may be a viral load in terms of infectious population so heavy it hangs over the city with air pollution and in ground water runoff.

I’m short what I am saying, the more people that get sick in an area, the sicker they get. While in mild areas the high risk and elderly succumb because it does not take a heavy viral load to kill them. But in heavily endemic areas as well as close quarters, many of the young will have severe outcomes, die to heavy viral loads.

Just my theory.


449 posted on 05/02/2020 5:43:18 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: amorphous

The part I dont really understand is how Italy gets whacked with people from China- and that ends up on the East Coast

West Coast mildly gets whacked with someone who came from Wuhan.

Even if the claim is that they are different strains..California should have gotten some of the Italy strain.

There are states in the midwest that are getting whacked hard and dont have the subway/mass concentration of people. Like Indiana..people are spread out..but they have the Biogen Conference strain.

It can’t just be sunshine and warmer weather in California


453 posted on 05/02/2020 6:25:50 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: amorphous

World wide we are still on the first wave or initial surge with no way to plateau the peak. This is because we have no way to prevent the disease spread through the third world. Personally I think the disease has to kill off a bunch of just a flu bros before we can enter a global mitigation phase. Boris getting it helped the UK. The Russian Prime Minister getting it will help Russia. Etc. Etc.


467 posted on 05/02/2020 9:42:21 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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