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Finally, NCAA will allow athletes to make money from endorsements
Yahoo ^ | April 29, 2020 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 04/29/2020 9:17:52 AM PDT by C19fan

The term of the day for the NCAA: “modernize.” Or maybe it was “change.” Then again, “unprecedented steps” also got plenty of time. All were true. After decades of digging in, battling in court, launching advertising campaigns or just shaking their collective head “no,” the NCAA’s Board of Governors has agreed to provide its athletes the same economic freedom as any other student on campus, starting in January 2021 at the latest. It still must clear a vote at the NCAA Convention, but board approval makes it all but inevitable. “We approved legislation for student athletes to receive compensation for third-party endorsements,” said Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith.

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To: Night Hides Not

Unlike football, ROTC is important. Does Gonzaga still recruit a lot of international players. It always seems like their team spans the globe. That would probably explain the academic success.


41 posted on 04/29/2020 11:09:55 AM PDT by wrcase
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To: C19fan

So what’s to stop one of those “supporters,” who formally wasn’t allowed to even buy an athlete dinner, from paying him Jim Wright style sums to appear in a commercial for a plumbing supply firm?

ML/NJ


42 posted on 04/29/2020 11:11:38 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Skywise

You’re right, they should.


43 posted on 04/29/2020 11:12:21 AM PDT by wrcase
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To: C19fan

As if college sports wasn’t corrupt enough already.


44 posted on 04/29/2020 11:12:30 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: discostu
You do know pro players have been signing endorsement deals for over half a century and not run into ANY of those problems right? So back in reality, none of those are problems. What is a problem is propping up a multimillion dollar league on players legally banned from making money.

The NFL functions as a monopoly, with teams limited on how much they can spend on players, and control of where the players go. Each year, they draft the top 400+ players.

Most revenue is split between the teams. That's why lousy teams like the Browns and Lions don't go out of business. They're guaranteed a profit, no matter what they put on the field, and with the rare exception of a star who is released or runs out his contract, other entities can't sweeten the pot, cause players are bound exclusively to one team.

In colleges, it's a whole different animal. Think Nike offering an endorsement deal if you sign with Oregon, or UnderArmour doing it with Maryland. Think one college having a $10 million a year booster offering endorsement contracts, with no limits on amounts. Most colleges will get priced out of being competitive.

FWIW, approximately 8% of athletic departments make money. For the rest of them, they're losing money trying to keep up with the "big boys."

What you're suggesting won't go like the NFL, it will be something different. I don't know exactly what it will look like, but whatever it is won't be what we're expecting.

45 posted on 04/29/2020 11:17:23 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: Night Hides Not
I agree, but Iwas hypothesizing of "IF" the NCAA raised and enforced academic standards, there would be a flood of jocks out of high school that could feed into a minor league, probably in mid-sized cities to grow a fan base that could support it.

Not that the NCAA would move a finger because they know they have a cash cow at the expense of collegiate academic standards. I am good with football players not even being students, it is raises standards. Same with any other sport.

I am sick and tired of "I just feel like.....," being inserted by athletes at any start of all interviews.

46 posted on 04/29/2020 11:20:51 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Night Hides Not

ROTC has that additional work load. But technically, if you can manage the hours you can get a job. NCAA that’s “external reward” and you can’t do it, not without risking punishment. NCAA is really obsessed with not having athletes make money.


47 posted on 04/29/2020 11:22:58 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: Skywise

In a sane world probably. But there’s the whole “ownership” thing. Even non-students working for a university will probably have their patents owned by the university.


48 posted on 04/29/2020 11:23:56 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: cherry

Female athletes at Bama don’t have to pose nakey for ad money. I can see several Bama softball players making good money through ads, and they are not exactly cover girls. On the contrary. Bama loves athletes who excel on and off the field. Bama gymnasts will also do well. I see the same happening at UFlorida, UGA, LSU, and all SEC schools. Tuscaloosa is not exactly a big town. It has grown a whole lot since Mercedes built a plant next door.


49 posted on 04/29/2020 11:25:24 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Richard Kimball

Monopoly status and all that has nothing to do with it. Brady makes more on endorsements than NFL salary, and will even under his new Bucs contract.

Most colleges are already “priced out” of competitiveness just by their own history. There’s a handful of “factory” schools in each sport, they have the rep, which lets them get coaches with rep, and gives them a big recruiting advantage. Every once in a while a really good coach bubbles up somewhere without the rep and builds one there. But frequently those guys then get poached by a “factory” school who just have more money (both their own and alumni) to throw around. So the only thing that really changes for schools with the possibility of deep pocketed local boosters is which schools become factories. Maybe Nike can make the Ducks matter for the long term. Or maybe not. Doesn’t matter.

Actually it’ll be exactly what I’m expecting. There are powerhouses now. There will be powerhouses then. Some old powerhouses will fade. Some new ones will come up. But the NCAA will still be divided by haves and have nots. Except now at least even the students at the have not schools will be eligible to make money. They won’t make as much. But at least if Bob’s Burger Barn wants to throw some cash at a player he won’t be at risk of punishment from the NCAA.


50 posted on 04/29/2020 11:30:16 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: petitfour

Unlike male football and basketball players, female collegiate athletes are very strong academic students who take real classes for the most part. They know there’s no real money on the other side.


51 posted on 04/29/2020 11:36:45 AM PDT by wrcase
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To: Salvavida
I am sick and tired of "I just feel like.....," being inserted by athletes at any start of all interviews.

LOL, there ought to be a "Goodwin's Law" for whenever an athlete drops the S (slavery) word.

52 posted on 04/29/2020 11:42:47 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: LRoggy

A lot of this also has been driven by video games, with colleges licensing not just the teams but the individual athletes, their names and their likenesses and keeping all the money.


53 posted on 04/29/2020 11:54:39 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: righttackle44

Who didn’t see this coming? They will get paid,unionized and politicized by the DNC. The left ruins and rots everything it touches. WTF does EVERYTHING have to change when it is unnecessary? Things are changed because of parasites and those who have evil intentions.


54 posted on 04/29/2020 11:57:09 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: discostu
"NCAA is really obsessed with not having athletes make money."

Come on now, the reason were academic integrity, gambling, and nepotism (Through no-show jobs, 2 Live Crew benjamins, coaches throwing hookers at recruits, etc... (Yes happens anyway, but hard as hell to keep quiet after awhile).

If college players want endorsements fine but college athletes must forfeit any and all academic scholarships they are granted in the process.

End one and done in basketball, however, the endorsement idea may even help college basketball to grow household names longer while in college since a high profile players might be able to pull 7 figures in by year 2 or 3.
55 posted on 04/29/2020 12:05:06 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: rollo tomasi

They were creating an illusion of purity. Same reason the Olympics banned pros for so long. Which then forced all compensation to be below the table, and opened the door for all those known problems. Not hard to keep quiet at all, because you’re making everyone be quiet for everything. Best way to get all that out is with above table money. Once pro athletes started making millions you never got another gambling scandal. Gambling interests just can’t throw enough money at them to matter.

Why should athletes have to forgo scholarships for getting outside jobs? Students in on academic scholarships can get outside jobs and keep their scholarships. That’s part of the problem with all this, athletic scholarships are treated completely different, with more rules, and more severe punishment.

Nothing the NCAA can do about one and done. Not their rule.


56 posted on 04/29/2020 12:18:15 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu
"Why should athletes have to forgo scholarships for getting outside jobs?"

You are selling an image/expectations through the resources provided by the college itself. If anything, the college should get a huge chunk of the endorsement (So I will keep that on the table).

Students who work are just getting by through their employer. For instance, the waitress working a Florida Ale House who goes to Clemson sure as heck is not a continuum through the vehicle of Clemson at the Ale House. However, Lawrence doing an Ale House commercial would likely be wearing pads, #16, OR a Clemson jersey as he is blasted all over the country.
57 posted on 04/29/2020 12:33:29 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: rollo tomasi

The next sentence is VERY important:
Students in on academic scholarships can get outside jobs and keep their scholarships.

Athletic scholarships and academic scholarships should be THE SAME.

The university makes all the money from ticket and merch sales. They don’t need the endorsement money athletes could get. Your jersey scenario runs under a different set of rules, one that actually DOES result in the university getting money (can’t use somebody’s logo in an ad without permission, and permission is usually granted at a price. But it’s very easy for Lawrence to do an ad without jersey (look at most ads featuring athletes now). University should get none of that. AND Lawrence should be allowed to do it.


58 posted on 04/29/2020 12:40:53 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

athletic scholarship benefits far outpace academic scholarships generally....


59 posted on 04/29/2020 12:43:40 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Nope. Quite wrong. Until the last few years athletics scholarships weren’t allowed a stipend. Now they’re at least even on that front (well, slightly, some academic scholarships come pretty lucrative stipends). In order to maintain their GPA athletes are pushed towards cushy classes, so they’re not getting anywhere near the education. And given the tiny percentage of athletes that make it into the pros students in on athletic scholarships are by far the least likely to be employed in their field of actual study. So actually 100% the opposite, academic scholarships far outpace athletic in benefits both during and after school.


60 posted on 04/29/2020 12:47:30 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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