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What counts as a COVID-19 death?
The Herald-News ^ | 22 April 2020 | DENISE M. BARAN–UNLAND

Posted on 04/24/2020 5:58:08 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

So if a person tests positive for the virus that causes COVID-19, that would count as a case. But what counts as a COVID-19 death?

During Gov. JB Pritzker's health briefing on Sunday, Dr. Ngozi Ezike, the Illinois Department of Public Health director, said anyone who had COVID-19 at the time of death, even if the person died of other causes, is counted among the COVID deaths.

In fact, even if a person is in hospice for other reasons but has COVID, too, that death is still counted among the COVID deaths, Ezike said.

(Excerpt) Read more at theherald-news.com ...


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To: MAGAthon

incidentally, the following two years barely got a mention in the FakeNewsMSM in Australia:

2017 Australian flu season - 1,100 deaths;
2019 Australian flu season - 900 deaths.
2020 flu season to date: 79 deaths (incl 24 cruise ship passengers/crew).

the only time I recall the 2019 flu season attracting media attention:

27 Mar 2019: Brisbane Times: Queensland health authorities say system working despite logjam
By Stuart Layt
Queensland Health authorities claim the health system is working, despite the logjam in south-east’s Queensland’s hospital emergency departments.
The Chief Health Officer, Jeannette Young, activated the state health emergency centre on Tuesday to meet the “unprecedented” demand, with all hospitals across Metro North, Metro South and the Gold Coast districts stretched to capacity.
That situation in a hospital is called a “code yellow” and all hospitals across the region were at that status with the exception of the Queensland Children’s Hospital...

Health Minister Steven Miles said there were still some patients in “non-bed treatment spaces” but the number was reducing...
The 30 additional beds were opened at the Mater private hospital, funded through a $3 million emergency injection of funds from the Queensland government.
Other private hospitals, including Greenslopes and St Vincent’s, have also opened their doors to public patients during the current situation...

Mr Miles said while many of the region’s emergency departments had been running near-full capacity for some time, there was still no way they could have foreseen the current situation.
“What was not predictable was the level of demand, peaking yesterday,” Mr Miles said...
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/queensland-health-authorities-say-system-working-despite-logjam-20190327-p51871.html

nothing like the above has occurred with COVID-19.


41 posted on 04/24/2020 8:06:57 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

written just before COVID19 panic took hold:

11 Feb 2020: ABC: Flu season which struck down 310,000 Australians ‘worst on record’ due to early outbreaks
ABC Sunshine Coast By Tara Cassidy
Last year, Australia experienced its worst flu season on record, with more than 310,000 people presenting to hospital and health services nationwide.
The figure is seven times greater than Australia’s previous 18-year average...

World Health Organisation (WHO) influenza researcher, Ian Barr, said such aggressive seasons were generally a “one-in-every-10-year occurrence”, but early flu outbreaks had seen Australia go through two in just three years.
He said it is an issue that is hard to predict and one difficult to address with vaccines.
“Definitely in terms of influenza seasons 2019 was the biggest Australia has had … it was very unusual,” Dr Barr said...
He believes international travellers played a significant role, but said other factors were also at play.
“The whole business of influenza is a numbers game, so if you get enough people coming back to Australia with infections from overseas, that can happen,” Dr Barr said.
“We put it down to higher tourist numbers, more Australians travelling overseas, climate conditions...

Hospital beds full and staff sick
Queensland Health Minister, Stephen Miles, said the intense season put a major strain on hospital and health services nationwide, which would have to incorporate early outbreaks into future planning.
“Certainly the levels we saw, it took a very high toll on the community and the health system,” he said.
“We had a record number of summer cases and that elongated the impact on our hospitals through more months of the year, as well as many of our own staff ended up catching the flu...
“That itself has an impact on our ability to cover rosters and increase staffing when we really need to, it makes the job of running hospitals even harder.”...

“There’s a lot of mysteries still about the flu and that’s why we have a lot of people allocated to researching and working on it.
“Every year the virus is different and the way it impacts us is different, we do our best to predict it.”...

But WHO’s Dr Barr said he does not believe vaccinations would have much impact where early outbreaks of influenza are concerned, stating 2019 was one of their most successful vaccination years to date.

“I wouldn’t say the vaccine had too much of an impact on that [severe season last year], the season was already in the starter gates and running before most vaccines were even given out,” he said.
“Given the significant number of cases in March and April — the vaccine isn’t even available during that time, and it normally takes a couple of weeks after being vaccinated to reach peak immunity.
“I wouldn’t say this was a vaccine issue.”...

While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases.
Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/early-outbreaks-to-blame-for-worst-flu-season-on-record/11949320

many Australians would not have noticed. people returned from Hong Kong every day suffering from this particular flu.

there were no daily updates. no lockdown.


42 posted on 04/24/2020 8:15:02 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

btw Australia has a population of 25 million, just to put the 310,000 infected last year into perspective.


43 posted on 04/24/2020 8:20:25 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I think it is done that way nationally. Birx said that anybody who dies with the Wuhan virus will be counted as a Covid 19 death.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/birx-says-government-is-classifying-all-deaths-of-patients-with-coronavirus-as-covid-19-deaths-regardless-of-cause


44 posted on 04/24/2020 8:43:59 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They’ll lie, cheat, and steal to bring up their death numbers to justify their bullshit model predictions.


45 posted on 04/24/2020 8:47:55 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SmokingJoe
They booked Elizabeth Warren’s brother’s death as coronavirus. Trouble is, he’s been in a hospice for terminal cancer for years, long before cironavirus even appeared. You know what a hospice is right? Plus he was 86. Did he die from coronavirus? Of course not.

How do you know this? Do you have a copy of his charts? How do you know he wouldn't have lived another year?

46 posted on 04/24/2020 9:08:20 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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Real question is, ow do you know he died from coronavirus? He was already a terminal cancer patient in a hospice for crying out loud.
Was there political capital for Warren if she claimed her brother died from coronavirus instead of cancer? Of course.


47 posted on 04/24/2020 9:31:36 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: eastexsteve
This is from the horse's mouth.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/birx-says-government-is-classifying-all-deaths-of-patients-with-coronavirus-as-covid-19-deaths-regardless-of-cause

48 posted on 04/24/2020 9:36:05 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Real question is, ow do you know he died from coronavirus? He was already a terminal cancer patient in a hospice for crying out loud.

You stated that he already lived with the cancer for YEARS until he caught the coronavirus. It's simple logic. What was to keep him from living another year? How about another six months? Unless you have the charts, you don't know.

Was there political capital for Warren if she claimed her brother died from coronavirus instead of cancer? Of course.

There's no doubt that democrats eat their own. But, she can claim anything she wants. It's the death certificate that counts.

49 posted on 04/24/2020 9:50:35 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I guess that Dr. Ngozie Ezike is really Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel in his alter ego form. Accuracy and the truth don’t matter to either or both.


50 posted on 04/24/2020 9:59:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: DUMBGRUNT

L8r


51 posted on 04/24/2020 11:14:57 PM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

No matter the cause of death .... Covid-19 caused it .... must justify the lockdown ....


52 posted on 04/25/2020 12:17:32 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that’s all.”


53 posted on 04/25/2020 6:55:49 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: SmokingJoe

Isn’t there some kind of law against falsifying cause of death on a certificate? I would think it would be as illegal as all they are currently doing for political reasons.


54 posted on 04/25/2020 7:17:46 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: eastexsteve
Death certificate?
Right now most coronavirus death certificates are fake.
Don't take my word for it. Dr Birx herself said so right here:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/birx-says-government-is-classifying-all-deaths-of-patients-with-coronavirus-as-covid-19-deaths-regardless-of-cause

It states clearly, regardless of cause of death, deaths with coronavirus are classified as death from coronavirus virus.
Read the link.

55 posted on 04/25/2020 7:20:39 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: oldtech

What counts as a COVID-19 death?

Anything that the despicable party can use to twist and gain an advantage in hospital money or in the political arena.


56 posted on 04/25/2020 7:21:26 AM PDT by JayAr36 (The worthless dispicable party must be destroyed)
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To: oldtech
Tell that to Birx and the CDC

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/birx-says-government-is-classifying-all-deaths-of-patients-with-coronavirus-as-covid-19-deaths-regardless-of-cause

Right now, no one is going to be prosecuted for putting cause of death as coronavirus in New York New Jersey Michigan or any ic the deep blue states.
The overriding aim is to kill the economy and get Trump defeated in November.
Nothing else matters.

57 posted on 04/25/2020 7:26:12 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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