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National Testing?
17 April 2020

Posted on 04/17/2020 8:44:01 PM PDT by rey

At the presser today, Dr Birx spoke of national testing saying they could eventually test a million a month. Wouldn't it take 27 1/4 years to test the US population of 327 million at the rate of a million a month?

Why didn't a single reporter ask, "Isn't that 27 years?"

Are my numbers wrong? Do they really think we are that stupid? The ilogic of all this is hurting my head.


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KEYWORDS: birx; coronavirus; tiredofvanities
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1 posted on 04/17/2020 8:44:01 PM PDT by rey
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To: rey

27.5 years if you use 330 million as the US population


2 posted on 04/17/2020 8:46:48 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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To: rey

Brix is an idiot.


3 posted on 04/17/2020 8:48:24 PM PDT by HIDEK6 ( God bless Donald Trump.)
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To: rey

If you are negative when they test you, you can be infected the next day. Testing is not the answer.


4 posted on 04/17/2020 8:48:27 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Antibody testing to see if you had it already (and are now immune)...millions out there.


5 posted on 04/17/2020 8:51:21 PM PDT by Drago
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To: rey

I thought she said they could make (manufacture) that many tests in a month.
When I heard it I thought, she has to have her figures wrong.


6 posted on 04/17/2020 8:52:46 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: rey

You didn’t watch the whole thing, did you? Dr. Fauci explained exactly how the idea of testing everyone is flawed. Even if you test everyone, you’re only getting the results for one point in time and those results can change from one day to the next. That’s the problem with a virus that is transmitted easily through casual contact ... unlike AIDS, which doesn’t transmit at all through casual contact.


7 posted on 04/17/2020 8:53:07 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Raycpa

Exactly. Testing will generally be done only on at-risk people and on those who are showing symptoms.


8 posted on 04/17/2020 8:54:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Raycpa

Yep! They can test me when I feel bad. If they’re checking for the anti bodies I can see it but all that does is let you sleep better at night. Wanna make me feel good? Nuke Beijing.


9 posted on 04/17/2020 8:56:00 PM PDT by Equine1952
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To: HIDEK6

she said don’t go out for 2 weeks. Order from grocery stores.

HOW WEALTHY and out of touch are you when you don’t know that NO ONE has any delivery opening until the fall right now!!

We have people so far out of touch at this point in every part of the fed govt.

Trump grew up rich but he has the common sense of an everyman.

I don’t think pop handed him money and some parts of Queens, even the wealthy ones, were pretty tough if they were mafia areas.

He’s a great President


10 posted on 04/17/2020 9:01:12 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Equine1952

Birx/Fauci, fake scientists like Neil Ferguson/Marc Lipsitch can quote any figures they like - the FakeNewsMSM is either innumerate or behaving as if they are. ditto most of the public.

too quick and easy (setting aside all our concerns about FakePolls).
this one should be done in a non-political, scientific and transparent manner, peer-reviewed and published. it could be done in a matter of weeks, at most.

4 Apr: The Hill: How deadly is the coronavirus?
By Lisa Boothe
As government and public health officials make decisions of enormous magnitude, shouldn’t we know how infectious and lethal the coronavirus is?
That is why random sampling is important. John Ioannidis, a Stanford epidemiologist who is famous for debunking bad research, has been pushing for it. He told me that random sampling is needed and could be done with a couple of thousand tests. When I told him that I previously worked in the polling industry, he put it in terms that resonated with me. He said, “Random representative testing is like polling. We run thousands of opinion polls in this country. We should similarly get a representative sample of the population and get them tested. It is just so easy.”...

Ioannidis warned of a potential evidence fiasco in a recent op-ed for Stat. He wrote, “The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed.”

Eran Bendavid and Jay Bhattacharya, also professors at Stanford, echoed that concern in The Wall Street Journal, writing, “The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.”...

Random sampling will tell us what percentage of the population has the coronavirus and its lethality. Only testing the very sick skews mortality rates and leaves us in the dark about how many Americans are unknowingly walking around asymptomatic or with mild symptoms...
With so much at stake, we need to have the best data possible through random sampling — and it needs to be done now.
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/491021-how-deadly-is-the-coronavirus

will it get done? not if those attempting to sabotage the Nov election get their way.


11 posted on 04/17/2020 9:02:05 PM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: Drago

As soon as that test gets here by us, the wife and I intend on getting it.


12 posted on 04/17/2020 9:03:17 PM PDT by crz
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To: rey

I can see testing everyone on board a ship or everyone in garrison on a restricted post might be of value. Maybe sites like offshore drilling platforms.


13 posted on 04/17/2020 9:06:51 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: crz

Yep, we need the “COVID-19 Antibody Home Test Kit” on the shelves at WalMart ASAP...(next to the blood glucose tests and the home pregnancy tests). ;-)


14 posted on 04/17/2020 9:07:23 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Alberta's Child

It was a clip on the news. It isn’t like the news to lead any of us astray, is it?


15 posted on 04/17/2020 9:09:39 PM PDT by rey
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To: Drago

Holly Schifftz! The rabbit died. What, oh from covid-19, it’s the only way. /s


16 posted on 04/17/2020 9:13:25 PM PDT by Equine1952
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To: dp0622

Can you please elaborate on “no deliveries until fall”? Here on the west coast, we have no such issue. Deliveries are available in 1-2 days.


17 posted on 04/17/2020 9:19:03 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Raycpa

“If you are negative when they test you, you can be infected the next day. Testing is not the answer.”

Fauci actually said that!


18 posted on 04/17/2020 9:20:21 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: MAGAthon

You are right and the initial report is out by the Stanford faculty you mention which shows that there are 50-85 times the number of people who’ve had it than identified cases.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1.full.pdf

It’s huge and shows it is not as deadly as thought.

Serious implications. It means yes, begin to open up.


19 posted on 04/17/2020 9:23:06 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: HIDEK6
She's no idiot. If you listened to her presentation today she pointed out something that is true about the idea of testing everyone - it would produce an avalanche of false positives, and would waste a lot of money. If you properly sample anything you can project to very large populations with accuracy. Fools like Sean Hannity make fun of the inaccuracy of early models that were, of necessity, built on sparse data. Now that we have more information the models are tightening up, as you would expect, and thankfully showing lower mortality, Hannity and others are mocking the relative inaccuracy of the early models. I cannot think of a more dynamic situation than an epidemic outbreak of a novel virus. We are learning a lot, very rapidly about this situation. For whatever reason, expanding the supply of testing materials so that 330M Americans can be tested every hour of every day, is not possible. Even if it were possible - it wouldn't be as helpful as a smaller and more intelligently focused sample. Some people cannot wrap their minds around that.
20 posted on 04/17/2020 9:24:40 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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