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Bam! End the lockdown!
Mrs llevrok said this today
Our regular grocery store is open. At times, it is packed with high risk seniors during special shopping hours.
Yet one of the employees have the virus And I’ve heard of no outbreak amongst their customes. Why? Because common sense hygiene prevails.
Why not look at that “model” ?
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We’s been hornswoggled!
Well, hell, that oughta be easy to confirm or refute.
Sometimes you want proof.
Sometimes you want evidence.
Sounds like Fauci in Jan and Feb.
The very young Mr. Streeck (photo behind the link) should answer customers’ questions and listen to their chatter on the sales floor of a busy supermarket in a blue collar hot spot for the length of a shift every day for a few months. That would lend more credibility to his study.
So I read a death was traced and caused by a person touching a salt shaker that an infected person handed to them. Whats up with that?
The CDC found corona virus in cruise ship cabins seventeen days after passengers left. How long it persists seems to vary a lot.
Before any extended disease prevention “shutdown” period ever gets ordered the research conducted by University of Bonn on the transmission ability of the subject should be determined before doing so. And the precautions issued solely based on the findings.
Nothing to see here, grocery stores are clearly safe.. Go about consumption as usual.
Come on. Im not even referring to the lock down. If this virus can be spread by coughing, sneezing s as and/or germs on hands, then of course it can be spread in public as well.
This is just silliness. The question is making the decision regardless of the risk.
Part of this story is in the details which aren’t discussed much.
If you enter a German grocery, I would suggest that a minimum of a quarter of the customers wear masks. Everyone is very particular about the cart business....so they wipe down the cart as they pick it up...with alcohol or a vinegar spray. Screens went up on almost all clerk stands.
In the dozen-odd occasions that I’ve been in a German grocery over the past month...it just seems like customers are more pro-hygiene than ever before.
But I heard on the news it lives 2.2 million years on fabric, especially the exterior of surgical masks.
If this is true, why is COVID still spreading in places where (for 4 weeks) the only allowable, transferring activity is in the grocery store?
Can we start saying that lockdowns have failed?
"However, there are different findings on how the coronavirus spreads. Experts from the US Institute of Health CDC and NIH had come to the conclusion that the virus can survive 24 hours on paper, three hours in aerosols and up to three days on plastics and stainless steel. As the Robert Koch Institute states on their website, however, scientific studies like this are realised under experimental conditions, which is why they are not very representative for the risk of transmission in daily life. (emphasis added)"
I think the research on virus "survival" / infectivity is useful, as it can provide people a guideline to potentially use to minimize exposure to COVID-19. But this makes an excellent point - the research is conducted under experimental conditions - which are often not real-world conditions.
And then some people may take minimizing exposure to COVID-19 to one end of the spectrum - such as letting mail sit for days / putting mail in microwave or oven, etc.
Too many variables for “proof” of transmission vector. Or lack thereof.
It’s a matter of statistical confidence.