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Corona Virus Daily Thread #43

Posted on 04/10/2020 10:52:27 AM PDT by LilFarmer

Previous thread here: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3833419/posts


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinaflu; coronavirus; livethread; wuhan
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To: PA Engineer
Explain why this is important in regards to the studies posted? Pick one and deconstruct it.

To one of the COVID-19 studies posted?

I apologize if I was not clear. Ioannidis published the article as a clarion call to be on guard (in part) for studies that originate from a bias. He aptly notes, generally:

"Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias."

and specifically:

"Research is not most appropriately represented and summarized by p-values, but, unfortunately, there is a widespread notion that medical research articles should be interpreted based only on p-values."

I posted the link as a reminder that all research needs to be viewed with a critical, thoughtful eye. That does not mean the study is not useful or valid.

761 posted on 04/13/2020 2:26:25 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Jane Long

I DO recall....from early CV threads....seeing posts about how current CV pts in China, who had had this SARs vaccine, didn’t fair well.
I don’t think I dreamed that :- /
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I remember reading that also. In addition, it was all set to roll out in USA when it was determined that it actually made people who got SARS worse due to cytokine storm. So they didn’t use it here.

I didn’t save any of the links, but it was indeed posted.


762 posted on 04/13/2020 2:30:13 AM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes
Thanks. That was weird.

I hope this works.

How to survive coronavirus - diet and metabolic health.
763 posted on 04/13/2020 2:33:47 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Fury

I might have missed something. Your post seemed out of place.


764 posted on 04/13/2020 2:35:03 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: blueplum

DENMARK

Denmark is about to make its first move to relax restrictions imposed to fight coronavirus.
From Wednesday, children aged 11 and younger return to schools and nurseries, after a month of closures.

BBC News
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-denmark-is-taking-steps-to-open-up-again/ar-BB12uRX8


765 posted on 04/13/2020 2:36:21 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: greeneyes

Reposted and indeed Groundhog Day.


766 posted on 04/13/2020 2:38:26 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Thanks. I’ll be very interested to watch that later. Got to get some sleep now—finally winding down.


767 posted on 04/13/2020 2:44:37 AM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: blueplum

USA - PPE

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration just issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) to Advanced Sterilization Products to use a process that could decontaminate about 4 million N95 respirators (or similar respirators) per day to be reused in U.S. hospitals, the FDA announced tonight [Saturday night]. The company’s machines, called STERRAD Sterilization Cycles, use vaporized hydrogen peroxide gas plasma sterilization; the low-temperature sterilization is used on heat-sensitive devices.

USA - VENTILATORS

— New York hospitals have stopped sharing ventilators among multiple patients, an experimental practice that was being tried to solve the issue of not having enough ventilators, according to the New York Times. Doctors found that the patients didn’t respond well, the practice took too much staff time and that sharing the machines could have been dangerous, according to the Times.

https://www.livescience.com/topics/live/coronavirus-live-updates

LiveScience.com


768 posted on 04/13/2020 2:50:12 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

TURKEY

Turkey gave a two hour notice to millions of residents in Ankara and Istanbul before imposing a two-day lockdown in those cities, according to the New York Times. Videos posted online showed that people rushed to shop for essentials, crowds formed and fights broke out, according to the Times. The number of COVID-19 cases increased by 4,747 in a day and 98 people died, Health Minister Fahrettin Koca said. The country now has over 47,000 cases, over 1,000 deaths and over 2,400 recoveries, according to the Johns Hopkins dashboard.

also from LiveScience


769 posted on 04/13/2020 2:51:30 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

MESSICO

Mexican factory making ventilators for the US is shut down by government after it refused to sell the machines to local hospitals

American-owned Smiths Medical plant in the northern border town of Baja, California, that was making ventilators, was shut down Friday

Gov. Jaimie Bonilla closed down the plant after the company refused to sell the machines to Mexican hospitals to treat coronavirus patients

Bonilla said the firm had continued to operate its local factory as an ‘essential service’, after non-essential plants were ordered closed to combat the pandemic

But Bonilla ordered the plant shuttered because he argued it was providing no such essential service to Mexicans

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213037/Mexico-closes-plant-making-ventilators-sold-hospitals-countries.html


770 posted on 04/13/2020 2:55:08 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: PA Engineer

Thanks for the working link. The first one you had that took me back to the beginning of the thread - I thought you were making a joke about it being another ground hog day!


771 posted on 04/13/2020 2:59:16 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: blueplum

UK

Self-isolation and contactless deliveries are nothing new: Britons adopted similar measures to help prevent the spread of plague in York during the 17th century, stone inscription reveals

Plague struck the city of York in the year 1604, forcing measures in response
Afflicted city-folk left the city to isolate in wooden lodges on a moor to the south
A marker stone served as a ‘contactless’ drop-off point for food for the sick
Coins as payment were left in a bowl-like indent full of cleaning water or vinegar
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8190193/How-social-distancing-hand-sanitising-practised-17th-century.html


772 posted on 04/13/2020 3:42:32 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: All; Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; LilFarmer; ...
Unless certain elitist idiots get their way, this should be the only year like this for a while.

He is Risen, above the coronavirus, all the elitist idiots and the other bad things of this world!

Amid pandemic, Christians mark an Easter like no other (4/12/20)

773 posted on 04/13/2020 4:16:16 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: All
Trump's developer friend Stanley Chera dies of coronavirus (4/12/20)
774 posted on 04/13/2020 4:19:40 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: blueplum

DARWIN CANDIDATES

CANADA -
FLOUT OF ORDER Outrage as ‘anti-lockdown conspiracy theorists ignore coronavirus fears to stage public protest in Vancouver’

Similar outrage has been seen online, with some Twitter users branding them “#COVIDIOTS”

One man brands the virus “overblown,” another claims the pandemic is a “b***s*** lie”.
The Sun
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11385702/outrage-as-anti-lockdown-conspiracy-theorists-protest-vancouver/

PHILADELPHIA - (with video)

Police forcibly removed a passenger from a bus in Philadelphia on Friday for not wearing a face mask.
A transit official ordered other passengers off the vehicle for the same reason, as a new rules implemented to protect transportation workers and passengers were enforced.

Transit operators have the right to refuse to let passengers travel that are not wearing face masks, but after the incident that rule has now been revoked.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-face-mask-philadelphia-bus-passenger-septa-police-a9460791.html


775 posted on 04/13/2020 4:20:36 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: All
A man who stayed in the same ICU as Boris Johnson said his experience there was 'absolutely horrible' (4/12/20)
776 posted on 04/13/2020 4:23:54 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: All
'We have thrown 15 years of institutional learning out the window': Leaked emails show top public health experts raised alarm about the Trump administration's botched coronavirus response (4/12/20)
777 posted on 04/13/2020 4:45:29 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: All
Reuters Health News Summary (4/12/20)
778 posted on 04/13/2020 4:52:21 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: All
All but three people who died from COVID-19 in a major US city were black (4/12/20)
779 posted on 04/13/2020 5:05:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: All
I really [censored] hate the Chinese Heme Goblin Virus right about now.

Coronavirus: UK 'cancels order for thousands of ventilators because hospitals need more advanced models'

780 posted on 04/13/2020 5:09:44 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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