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Dr. Birx Says Here Very Plainly That Anyone Who Dies “With COVID-19” Is Being Counted As Having Died From COVID-19.
Twitter ^ | 04/07/20

Posted on 04/08/2020 5:41:18 AM PDT by Enlightened1

This is remarkable. Dr. Birx says here very plainly that anyone who dies “with COVID-19” is being counted as having died from COVID-19. She admits this is a “liberal approach” to recording mortality. The suspicions many of us had are now confirmed.

 

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1247672477498724352

 

 

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: birx; chinavirusmortality; coronavirus; count; covid10; drbrix
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To: Vermont Lt

24,000 people have died in the U.S. from the Flu this season.
That’s 13,000 more deaths than from Coronavirus!

Flu deaths started rapidly decreasing as soon as Coronavirus deaths were increasing.

https://www.ky3.com/content/news/US-flu-activity-drops-sharply-death-toll-holds-at-24K-569352381.html


21 posted on 04/08/2020 5:54:28 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

I can’t say I disagree completely with this rationale.

I am not in the business of making public policy, and WU-FLU certainly hastened the demises of these folks.


22 posted on 04/08/2020 5:54:34 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Candor7

Yes because what the crisis needs is TV doctors. Why not toss on Meredith Gray and Ben Casey as well?


23 posted on 04/08/2020 5:55:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Enlightened1

You can listen to her say that.


I watched it. It doesn’t say what is attributed. She clearly says that if you have an underlying condition but go the hospital for COVID symptoms which exacerbate the underlying condition and then die from them, to apply that as COVID.

She clearly does NOT say that just because they have the Wuhan coronavirus to attribute the cause of death to COVID.

She says that some other countries have been under-reporting COVID deaths in the exact inverse of what the headline is implying.

This is the normal way causes of death are attributed.


24 posted on 04/08/2020 5:58:09 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: brookwood

I went to the this link

https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam

and I cannot find it? I clicked on deaths and it took me to Chicago’s deaths with a link?

Link it directly please. Thank you.


25 posted on 04/08/2020 5:58:20 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Insanity! Trump is getting gaslighted. He really needs to trust his instincts and let us all go back to work!
This is nuts.


Careful reading is being shown as a lost art.


26 posted on 04/08/2020 5:59:10 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: rightwingcrazy

Did you read what she said? Not what the headline read, but her actual quote?

I didn’t think so.


27 posted on 04/08/2020 6:02:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Agreed. COVID-19 overwhelmed their system. They were managing well enough before they contracted the virus. Decreasing O2 levels throughout the system, resulting from the damage in the lungs - put them over. Even on a good day, we just don’t run very well without oxygen 😔
28 posted on 04/08/2020 6:04:25 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Enlightened1

I didn’t go to Chicago when I clicked on the link, but it didn’t load properly either.

Here’s a doc.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/vs/2015sum.pdf

P 47 gives a death total for 2015 of Total 54,120

54,120/365 = 148


29 posted on 04/08/2020 6:06:24 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: brookwood

They said it would double every 3 days, and it did not. This is why the numbers went from 2 million dead to 100-200k in 8 days. Even though the incubation period is 30 days. How do you explain that?

I read people who are on their death bed from stage 4 cancer or kidney failure, that happened to test positive for Coronavirus 19. They are being marked dead from Coronavirus and not the cancer!

The timeline is the giveaway what we are being told is garbage too.

President Trump was told by China in November of 2019. This is when China said hey we have a problem they had been dealing with since September of 2019. SIX MONTHS!!!

So you mean to tell me the world had a highly contagious and deadly virus for 6 MONTHS, and no hospitals noticed anything unusual???

Think about it. Everything was normal from September of 2019 all the way through about late February. We had the sports, the holidays, the Super Bowl and nothing. Keep in mind too that Chinese were traveling all over the world with this highly contagious disease for SIX MONTHS, and no hospital noticed?

Give me a break!

You can get computer models to say anything you want. Bad input equals bad output.


30 posted on 04/08/2020 6:08:04 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: lepton

I hope it’s relevant, but my nephew has been injecting insulin all his adult life.

For a while now, he’s had a sore throat, but won’t go to the hosp. He’s afraid of contagion there.

I’ve been wondering about this for a days... I think there must be many other people in his situation.

How would his ultimate diagnosis read?

Myself, I wouldn’t go to the ER for ANYTHING, right now... well, maybe if I was bleeding to death. It’s scary!


31 posted on 04/08/2020 6:09:46 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Did you read what she said”

It’s difficult to read what she said, since this a Tweet from Matt Walsh, not from her. But I heard what she said. She says a lot of things, but makes definitive bottom line conclusions based on numbers she later acknowledges are flawed. Those acknowledgements come off as read-the-small-print, CYA sorts of statements. Not impressed.


32 posted on 04/08/2020 6:13:02 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Enlightened1

Only if it’s medically related should it count.


33 posted on 04/08/2020 6:13:55 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: lepton

That is for the top 10 on page 13 and not everyone.

Did you even bother to look at the rest?


34 posted on 04/08/2020 6:14:16 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: BobL

NYC had 1000 deaths yesterday attributed to Coronavirus. On an average day (before Coronavirus), about 250 people in that city die.

The math isn’t that hard.


From what I can find, 250 was accurate in the late 70’s and early 80’s, but it is probably closer to 150 now.

Page 49 on this link gives data through 2016 https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/vs/2016sum.pdf

I suspect rates have dropped because many New Yorkers go to Florida to die.

At any rate, if the death rate really has spiked to 1000/day that says something. Some may be indirect—stress is probably up for many people, and people may not be going to the hospital for other things—but it certainly would say something.

I think that most numbers right now are garbage, even if well intentioned, and even if two sets of numbers are done well, unless they use the same methodology they aren’t necessarily that comparable. Still, I’d hope that the counting of dead people at least can be done right.


35 posted on 04/08/2020 6:15:15 AM PDT by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.Â)
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To: lepton

Look what it says on page 13 to give you that total?

“Top 10”.... Not all deaths.


36 posted on 04/08/2020 6:15:31 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes because what the crisis needs is TV doctors.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are absolutely correct.

And they need to be doctors whop have a history of being supportive of both the Constitution and the president.

Birx and Fauci are both leftist TV “doctors.”


37 posted on 04/08/2020 6:16:03 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Enlightened1

I was please that Lindsey Graham followed Dr. Birx and said this was a ridiculous way to count.


38 posted on 04/08/2020 6:17:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SMARTY

“For a while now, he’s had a sore throat, but won’t go to the hosp. He’s afraid of contagion there.”

I had a sore throat yesterday, but based on the webs (and feeling fine today) figured it was from spraying Lysol (ethanol) on all the door knobs and light switches!

Try going to a mobile testing place. In Seattle they have testing sites near homeless shelters. I heard a reporter say they were at a testing location with ten volunteers running the thing - and one person got tested in the hour while they were there! It was primarily to test people going into the shelter, but they said they would test any body.


39 posted on 04/08/2020 6:18:13 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: SMARTY

I’m sorry about your nephew. My niece is due to have a baby in 2 weeks, has the dry cough and fever. The situation is depressing all around.


40 posted on 04/08/2020 6:19:16 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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