And I heard dr Fauci say we will win this when there are zero infections and zero deaths. That will never happen.
for some places it may make sense.
higher population density cities that are experiencing a lot of cases, limiting exposure is probably helpful.
less population dense spaces with few or no cases, probably not so helpful.
If stay at home is necessary,shut down state borders!! We fly over states will linger longer due to everyone escaping their urban Utopias.
Of course they aren’t. Stay at home orders need to be given when people are already doing them themselves. If there’s no cases in a county, what’s going to happen there? Most people are going to rightly say ‘this is bull’ and go out anyway.
We’re probably a month or two ahead of stay at home orders. That said, a 3% infection rate is the event horizon, NYC Metro is reporting .5% (with lack of testing) which probably equates to the horizon. The NYC Metro area should be on stay at home.
The testing is a relatively big issue that really needs to be addressed (Hey, California, pointing right at you dude, so put down that reefer and the board and turn that hat back around.) State department of health laws requiring testing being done in a state approved lab, even for informative and not diagnostic testing, is the problem here. State labs are close to two weeks behind. Quite a few will be dead before their labs come back.
Also really would have loved to see some guidelines from Washington DC on testing to not only overrule local rules about requiring diagnostic testing, but also protecting those being tested. Right now, there’s little stopping informative test sites from harvesting DNA at the same time to add to their databases.
So yep, we’re early. We have no standard for when it ends, and come when we REALLY need it (late fall), hopefully the second wave won’t be as bad as I fear it will be.
The only problem is that we have had a lot of visitors, hikers, rock climbers, etc., camping out in our rural mountain resort area. No corona virus cases here until the visitors started shopping in our markets, now we have eight cases of corona virus here.
Metro, Metro China Virus
I wonder if those models account for large apartment buildings with co-mingling ventilation, and other types of things that would make stay-at-home orders a deadly thing to do for some percentage of the populace.
Dr Fauxcy needs to get out of DC more.
He’s totally gone over the edge and needs to be ignored.
Fauci is an old man (79 years old) who has been director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease for 36 years.
36 years in charge of our government’s institute overseeing infectious diseases. That’s a long time.
If anyone is to blame who might that be?
Papers discussing Coronavirus, temperature and humidity: The Effects of Temperature and Relative Humidity on the Viability of the SARS Coronavirus
Not peer reviewed yet: High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID-19
Short version: A few warm days will not be enough to stop it.
Yes, though most everyone works around the orders. It slows things down though traffic in my area is the same as normal.
The largest thing slowing people’s circulation is the closing of retail and bars.
If you have an ‘essential’ reason to be out, you can be out. And everyone has one or more, and often.
Well, time for a nice walk. It’s classified “essential”.
Everyone has been exposed, so why the martial law, the dictator governors and mayors?
Dr showtime will destroy the country if he can be on Tee Vee.
If we’d just gone about our business, washed our hands, the numbers would be the same
Problem I see is - what if this doesn’t die down? What if the infection and death rates stay high?
What if we are 3 or 4 months down the road, and there is little change?
At that point our nation, our economy, and the financial condition of our nation and everyone in it will be beyond recovery.....
Great opportunity for hiring SDC0s, Social Distance Compliance Officer, back to normal, rural US.
The reason why flu season occurs in winter... Because more people are stuck indoors. So the solution to any flu like virus is not lock downs... The complete opposite should be encouraged.
Can’t point it out enough... Japan. No lock downs, people where mask and they have 63 deaths in one of the most densely populated places on earth. 120 plus million people and 63 deaths... Think about it.
The stay at home orders (such as they are since most folks can shop and be on the road w/o being queried) are more to remind folks to keep their distance and hopefully stop supplying hosts...I’m against actual lockdowns and prefer “suggestions” laden with rational...but some folks are too stupid to take even basic precautions and will knowingly put others at risk for their own personal convenience - the lazy/spoiled/selfish society we have become is our biggest threat....because....you can’t fix stupid - it has to die out on its own.
What people are not seeing is that the elderly, the retirees, are dead in this scenario. This is building up to, “OMG! WE CAN’T SAVE EVERYONE! WE MUST CHOOSE!”